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Минимально-максимальный:))
Заинька: Дурной вопрос, кто-ть когда-ть занимался в "АИ"-железячестве проблемой не оптимизации, но минимизации разных там корабликов - и чего получалось?
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von Echenbach: По шарпу - слабый корпус, плохое разделение на отсеки, плохая мореходность и пр. У шарпа всё что небольшое или древнее и выходит за "обыденность" (в т.ч. и реальные корабли частично) - всё плохо... :-) При уменьшенной скорости и дальности плавания - вполне себе кораблики небольшие получались. По темам "персиковым" рассыпано.
Заинька: von Echenbach пишет: По темам "персиковым" рассыпано. Так давайте соберём:)) Вот, например, "очень весьма рукопожатный договорной" линкор конца 30х, в 30кТ нормального водоизмещения и практически кредитоспособный:)) РЫЖАЯ, линкор laid down 1938 Displacement: 27 407 t light; 28 946 t standard; 30 000 t normal; 30 843 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (650,47 ft / 639,76 ft) x 91,86 ft (Bulges 98,43 ft) x (27,89 / 28,56 ft) (198,26 m / 195,00 m) x 28,00 m (Bulges 30,00 m) x (8,50 / 8,70 m) Armament: 6 - 16,54" / 420 mm 45,0 cal guns - 2 204,62lbs / 1 000,00kg shells, 100 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1930 Model 1 x Triple mount on centreline, forward deck forward 1 x Triple mount on centreline, aft deck aft 12 - 6,10" / 155 mm 60,0 cal guns - 121,25lbs / 55,00kg shells, 200 per gun Dual purpose guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1935 Model 2 x Triple mounts on sides, forward deck forward 2 x Triple mounts on sides, aft deck aft 8 - 3,74" / 95,0 mm 50,0 cal guns - 24,25lbs / 11,00kg shells, 200 per gun Anti-air guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1930 Model 1 x Quad mount on centreline, forward deck forward 1 raised mount 1 x Quad mount on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount 8 - 3,74" / 95,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 24,25lbs / 11,00kg shells, 200 per gun Anti-air guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1930 Model 2 x Twin mounts on sides, forward deck centre 2 x Twin mounts on sides, aft deck centre Weight of broadside 15 071 lbs / 6 836 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 13,8" / 350 mm 377,30 ft / 115,00 m 19,69 ft / 6,00 m Ends: Unarmoured Main Belt covers 91% of normal length Main Belt inclined 15,00 degrees (positive = in) - Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads: 3,15" / 80 mm 377,30 ft / 115,00 m 29,53 ft / 9,00 m Beam between torpedo bulkheads 65,62 ft / 20,00 m - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 15,7" / 400 mm 7,87" / 200 mm 13,8" / 350 mm 2nd: 3,94" / 100 mm 3,15" / 80 mm 3,15" / 80 mm 3rd: 0,79" / 20 mm 0,79" / 20 mm 0,79" / 20 mm 4th: 0,79" / 20 mm 0,79" / 20 mm 0,79" / 20 mm - Armoured deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 5,91" / 150 mm - Conning towers: Forward 15,75" / 400 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 61 592 shp / 45 948 Kw = 25,00 kts Range 2 000nm at 20,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 1 897 tons Complement: 1 139 - 1 481 Cost: £15,233 million / $60,934 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 2 775 tons, 9,3% - Guns: 2 775 tons, 9,3% Armour: 12 218 tons, 40,7% - Belts: 4 524 tons, 15,1% - Torpedo bulkhead: 1 298 tons, 4,3% - Armament: 1 982 tons, 6,6% - Armour Deck: 4 086 tons, 13,6% - Conning Tower: 328 tons, 1,1% Machinery: 1 687 tons, 5,6% Hull, fittings & equipment: 10 727 tons, 35,8% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 593 tons, 8,6% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 41 329 lbs / 18 746 Kg = 18,3 x 16,5 " / 420 mm shells or 8,1 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,07 Metacentric height 5,0 ft / 1,5 m Roll period: 18,5 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 83 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,65 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,10 Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a normal bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,598 / 0,600 Length to Beam Ratio: 6,50 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 27,52 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 75 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25,00 degrees Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 15,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Aft deck: 40,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m, 17,39 ft / 5,30 m - Average freeboard: 17,45 ft / 5,32 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 89,8% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 124,6% Waterplane Area: 43 987 Square feet or 4 087 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 100% Structure weight / hull surface area: 195 lbs/sq ft or 953 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,00 - Longitudinal: 1,36 - Overall: 1,03 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
von Echenbach: Заинька пишет: РЫЖАЯ, линкор laid down 1938 отлично получиось. Только зачем 155мм?
Заинька: von Echenbach пишет: зачем 155мм? Затем же, зачем и 150мм бронепалуба - для полноценности Или вопрос был о трёх миллиметрах? - тогда из-за "сухопутности" системы, 95мм зенитки и 155мм универсалки бывшие "сухопутные" системы, 420мм - морская.
von Echenbach: Заинька пишет: 155мм универсалки эт понятно. Поначалу 155 -"как в Ниппонии" :-) и впечатление абсолютной ненадобности, даже с условием "полноценности". Итальянский проект с 6 12" после 1 МВ неплохо ещё смотрится. 420 - это серьёзно, сразу кораблик переводит в ранг достойного внимания субъекта.
Заинька: von Echenbach пишет: и впечатление абсолютной ненадобности НЮ, по меньшей мере как пойдёт радиовзрыватель, так 155мм "универсалки" начнут жечь Вообще же дешёвый линкор=массовый линкор, им придётся действовать с дефицитом малых/эскадренных крейсеров, в то время как в ВМВ у большинства участников было более-менее наоборот. Так что мощная противоминная артиллерия нужна.
Leopard: а нарисовать
cobra: на днях ужимали в Ульмовском кальке миноносец для ПМВ "Название: Миноносец ""Экономный"" 1915г. Размеры: 317 тонн; 60x8x1,6 метров; Низкий силуэт c коротким полубаком, две трубы рядом за носовой рубкой и одна в центре корпуса, одна мачта Испытания: увеличение скорости и хорошая орудийная платформа. Слабо мореходен, остойчив. Машины: 8622л.с. = 30,7 уз; 550 миль - 10уз; Вооружение: установки ГК (лм): 2x88/50(1915с)250, установки БК: 1x47/43(1914с)1000, поворотный ТА 2x2 450 Стоимость: 165тф"
Заинька: А вполне хорошенький
GromoBoy: cobra пишет: две трубы рядом за носовой рубкой Може одну широкую?
cobra: непринципиально
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Заинька: Спасибо!
von Echenbach: Заинька пишет: как пойдёт радиовзрыватель, так 155мм "универсалки" начнут жечь появилась мысль - а если радиовзрывателем по надвоным целям: крейсера, линкоры и т.п., вплоть до катеров... И сам радиовзрыватель на ГК и СК - ?
Заинька: von Echenbach пишет: если радиовзрывателем по надвоным целям: крейсера, линкоры и т.п., вплоть до катеров... Новую жизнь сегментным снарядам! :)
von Echenbach: Минимальных размеров максимальный флот: Флот РИ БЕЗ эскадренных броненосцев. Перенесено.
von Echenbach: Перенесено в тему "Русский флот без ЭБР"
von Echenbach: Играем за конфедератов. Меллори предлагает построить в Австрии-Германии и Англии по одному "противоблокадному" быстроходному кораблю с лёгкой защитой, сильной артиллерией и большим ходом - для нападений на КЛ дозоров у побережья. "Фантом", laid down 1863, Displacement: 1 030 t light; 1 066 t standard; 1 114 t normal; 1 152 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (251,30 ft / 239,50 ft) x 39,37 ft x (9,84 / 10,06 ft) (76,60 m / 73,00 m) x 12,00 m x (3,00 / 3,07 m) Armament: 1 - 7,01" / 178 mm 18,0 cal gun - 118,41lbs / 53,71kg shells, 20 per gun Muzzle loading gun in deck mount, 1863 Model 1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck aft 4 - 7,01" / 178 mm 18,0 cal guns - 118,41lbs / 53,71kg shells, 35 per gun Muzzle loading guns in deck mounts, 1863 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward 2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward 4 - 4,21" / 107 mm 20,0 cal guns - 25,85lbs / 11,72kg shells, 50 per gun Muzzle loading guns in deck mounts, 1863 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 695 lbs / 315 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 2,01" / 51 mm 209,97 ft / 64,00 m 7,22 ft / 2,20 m Ends: Unarmoured Main Belt covers 135% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,98" / 25 mm - - 2nd: 0,98" / 25 mm - - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 0,47" / 12 mm Forecastle: 0,00" / 0 mm Quarter deck: 0,71" / 18 mm - Conning towers: Forward 0,98" / 25 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines, Direct drive, 3 shafts, 1 541 ihp / 1 149 Kw = 13,00 kts Range 400nm at 9,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 87 tons (100% coal) Complement: 96 - 125 Cost: £0,108 million / $0,432 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 40 tons, 3,6% - Guns: 40 tons, 3,6% Armour: 192 tons, 17,2% - Belts: 123 tons, 11,0% - Armament: 15 tons, 1,4% - Armour Deck: 52 tons, 4,6% - Conning Tower: 2 tons, 0,2% Machinery: 419 tons, 37,6% Hull, fittings & equipment: 379 tons, 34,0% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 84 tons, 7,5% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 338 lbs / 153 Kg = 3,3 x 7,0 " / 178 mm shells or 0,4 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,85 Metacentric height 3,3 ft / 1,0 m Roll period: 9,1 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 90 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,22 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,79 Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,420 / 0,425 Length to Beam Ratio: 6,08 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 18,70 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 34 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 33,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m - Aft deck: 35,00%, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Average freeboard: 9,16 ft / 2,79 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 133,3% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 103,9% Waterplane Area: 6 103 Square feet or 567 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 91% Structure weight / hull surface area: 49 lbs/sq ft or 239 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,52 - Longitudinal: 1,18 - Overall: 0,57 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Adequate accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
von Echenbach: Уважаемый конструктор аи - Стволяр предложил увеличить ББО типа Адмирал ушаков до миниманьно уменьшенного Сисоя: https://stvolar.livejournal.com/63944.html Идея вполне аи и хорошо укладывается в темы "Витте-аи" и "максимально-минимальные", Близко к Сисою идёт развитие 12 Апостолов и Полтавы/Три Святителя. Имея предпочтение к схеме "зеркальный Бранденбург"-супер 12 Апостолов, тем не менее прикинул на ув. шарпии-3.3 что могло бы быть... Концепция флота "почти береговой обороны" - из-за количества кораблей и их относительно тяжелого вооружения "чисто и незамутнённо" считать образующееся пригодным только для БО не вполне справедливо. Классы: Броненосцы, утрачивают приставки "эскадренный" и "береговой обороны", не производится 10" арт. система. 5000 т, 15 уз, 2х2 12", 8 6", борт 9". Броненосные крейсера - 7000 т, 20 уз, 2х2 12", 8 6", борт 6-9". Крейсера-разведчики - 2700 т, 20 уз, 4 ромбом 8" (или 4х1 - 4х2 6"), 12 - 3", борт 3-4". Канонерские лодки - 1100 т, 13 уз, 4 ромбом 6", 8 47-мм, борт 4". Могут нести и мортиры для действия по берегу от 6 до 9 дм. Эскадренные миноносцы (почти как у ув. Соbrа - см. выше) - 300 т, 25 уз, 2 76, 2 47, 2х2 поворотные + 2х1 носовые ТА, над КМО - 12-мм. = +миноносцы, ПЛ, ТЩ-СКР. МЗ. броненосцы - сериями по 3: для ЧМ 2 группы (6 кораблей), БМ 4 группы (12 кораблей), ТО - 3 группы (9 кораблей) laid down 1894, Displacement: 4 486 t light; 4 827 t standard; 5 006 t normal; 5 149 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (288,71 ft / 272,31 ft) x 62,34 ft x (18,04 / 18,46 ft) (88,00 m / 83,00 m) x 19,00 m x (5,50 / 5,63 m) Armament: 4 - 12,01" / 305 mm 40,0 cal guns - 829,70lbs / 376,34kg shells, 90 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1894 Model 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, aft deck aft 8 - 5,98" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,07lbs / 49,02kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1894 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft 2 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas 4 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward 2 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas 12 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 3,19lbs / 1,45kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1894 Model 12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread 4 raised mounts Weight of broadside 4 222 lbs / 1 915 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 15,0" / 380 mm, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m torpedoes - 0,275 t each, 1,101 t total In 4 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 9,02" / 229 mm 196,85 ft / 60,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Ends: 2,99" / 76 mm 65,62 ft / 20,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 111% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 9,02" / 229 mm 3,23" / 82 mm 7,99" / 203 mm 2nd: 2,01" / 51 mm 0,47" / 12 mm - - Armoured deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 1,89" / 48 mm Forecastle: 1,26" / 32 mm Quarter deck: 1,26" / 32 mm - Conning towers: Forward 7,99" / 203 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines, Direct drive, 2 shafts, 4 726 ihp / 3 526 Kw = 15,50 kts Range 1 600nm at 10,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 322 tons (100% coal) Complement: 296 - 386 Cost: £0,590 million / $2,358 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 802 tons, 16,0% - Guns: 800 tons, 16,0% - Weapons: 1 tons, 0,0% Armour: 1 636 tons, 32,7% - Belts: 728 tons, 14,5% - Armament: 458 tons, 9,1% - Armour Deck: 400 tons, 8,0% - Conning Tower: 50 tons, 1,0% Machinery: 815 tons, 16,3% Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 233 tons, 24,6% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 520 tons, 10,4% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 3 296 lbs / 1 495 Kg = 3,8 x 12,0 " / 305 mm shells or 4,8 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,35 Metacentric height 4,2 ft / 1,3 m Roll period: 12,8 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 90 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,87 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,80 Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a ram bow and a cruiser stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,572 / 0,575 Length to Beam Ratio: 4,37 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 16,50 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 7,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 21,33 ft / 6,50 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Aft deck: 35,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Average freeboard: 15,41 ft / 4,70 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 110,8% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 114,3% Waterplane Area: 12 094 Square feet or 1 124 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 79% Structure weight / hull surface area: 96 lbs/sq ft or 469 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,58 - Longitudinal: 3,04 - Overall: 0,69 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Adequate accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather броненосные крейсера: сериями по 3: для ЧМ 1 группа (3 корабля), БМ 2 группы (6 кораблей), ТО - 3 группы (9 кораблей) laid down 1897, Displacement: 6 253 t light; 6 671 t standard; 7 016 t normal; 7 291 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (380,58 ft / 364,17 ft) x 59,06 ft x (19,69 / 20,31 ft) (116,00 m / 111,00 m) x 18,00 m x (6,00 / 6,19 m) Armament: 4 - 12,01" / 305 mm 40,0 cal guns - 829,70lbs / 376,34kg shells, 110 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1897 Model 1 x 2 row quad mount on centreline, forward deck forward 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, aft deck aft 8 - 5,98" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,07lbs / 49,02kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1897 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft 2 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas 4 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward 2 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas 12 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 3,19lbs / 1,45kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1897 Model 12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread 4 raised mounts Weight of broadside 4 222 lbs / 1 915 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 15,0" / 381 mm, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m torpedoes - 0,311 t each, 1,243 t total In 4 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 7,99" / 203 mm 252,62 ft / 77,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Ends: 5,98" / 152 mm 108,27 ft / 33,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 107% of normal length Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 9,02" / 229 mm 3,23" / 82 mm 7,99" / 203 mm 2nd: 2,01" / 51 mm 0,47" / 12 mm - - Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 1,65" / 42 mm Forecastle: 1,26" / 32 mm Quarter deck: 1,26" / 32 mm - Conning towers: Forward 7,99" / 203 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines, Direct drive, 3 shafts, 12 441 ihp / 9 281 Kw = 19,50 kts Range 2 800nm at 10,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 620 tons (100% coal) Complement: 383 - 498 Cost: £0,823 million / $3,291 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 802 tons, 11,4% - Guns: 800 tons, 11,4% - Weapons: 2 tons, 0,0% Armour: 1 906 tons, 27,2% - Belts: 951 tons, 13,6% - Armament: 436 tons, 6,2% - Armour Deck: 455 tons, 6,5% - Conning Tower: 63 tons, 0,9% Machinery: 2 040 tons, 29,1% Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 506 tons, 21,5% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 763 tons, 10,9% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 2 890 lbs / 1 311 Kg = 3,3 x 12,0 " / 305 mm shells or 3,4 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,30 Metacentric height 3,6 ft / 1,1 m Roll period: 13,0 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 76 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,93 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,52 Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a ram bow and a cruiser stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,580 / 0,584 Length to Beam Ratio: 6,17 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 19,08 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 9,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Aft deck: 35,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Average freeboard: 16,93 ft / 5,16 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 135,9% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 125,4% Waterplane Area: 15 438 Square feet or 1 434 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 78% Structure weight / hull surface area: 82 lbs/sq ft or 402 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,59 - Longitudinal: 1,72 - Overall: 0,66 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather Лёгкие крейсера-разведчики: сериями по 3: для ЧМ 1 группа (3 корабля), БМ 2 группы (6 кораблей), ТО - 2 группы (6 кораблей) laid down 1899, Barbette ship, Displacement: 2 240 t light; 2 372 t standard; 2 513 t normal; 2 626 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (316,60 ft / 305,12 ft) x 42,65 ft x (13,12 / 13,57 ft) (96,50 m / 93,00 m) x 13,00 m x (4,00 / 4,14 m) Armament: 4 - 7,99" / 203 mm 45,0 cal guns - 257,42lbs / 116,76kg shells, 120 per gun Breech loading guns in open barbette mounts, 1899 Model 2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread 2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft 12 - 2,99" / 76,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,51lbs / 6,13kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1899 Model 12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread 12 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas Weight of broadside 1 192 lbs / 541 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 15,0" / 380 mm, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m torpedoes - 0,334 t each, 1,338 t total In 4 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 2,01" / 51 mm 216,54 ft / 66,00 m 7,22 ft / 2,20 m Ends: Unarmoured Main Belt covers 109% of normal length Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 2,01" / 51 mm - 2,99" / 76 mm 2nd: 0,71" / 18 mm 0,31" / 8 mm - - Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 1,26" / 32 mm Forecastle: 0,71" / 18 mm Quarter deck: 0,98" / 25 mm - Conning towers: Forward 2,99" / 76 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines, Direct drive, 2 shafts, 9 092 ihp / 6 782 Kw = 21,00 kts Range 2 200nm at 10,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 254 tons (100% coal) Complement: 176 - 230 Cost: £0,313 million / $1,252 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 311 tons, 12,4% - Guns: 310 tons, 12,3% - Weapons: 2 tons, 0,1% Armour: 470 tons, 18,7% - Belts: 131 tons, 5,2% - Armament: 131 tons, 5,2% - Armour Deck: 195 tons, 7,8% - Conning Tower: 12 tons, 0,5% Machinery: 1 134 tons, 45,1% Hull, fittings & equipment: 324 tons, 12,9% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 273 tons, 10,9% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 661 lbs / 300 Kg = 2,6 x 8,0 " / 203 mm shells or 1,4 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,56 Metacentric height 2,9 ft / 0,9 m Roll period: 10,4 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 76 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,47 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,52 Hull form characteristics: Hull has raised forecastle, a ram bow and a cruiser stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,515 / 0,520 Length to Beam Ratio: 7,15 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 17,47 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 13,00 degrees Stern overhang: 4,92 ft / 1,50 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 19,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Forward deck: 34,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Aft deck: 33,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Average freeboard: 13,92 ft / 4,24 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 174,1% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 123,9% Waterplane Area: 8 791 Square feet or 817 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 62% Structure weight / hull surface area: 40 lbs/sq ft or 193 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,50 - Longitudinal: 1,31 - Overall: 0,55 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather Эскадренные миноносцы: сериями по 3: для ЧМ 3 группы (9 кораблей), БМ 6 групп (18 кораблей), ТО - 4 группы (12 кораблей), маломореходны. laid down 1900, Displacement: 283 t light; 292 t standard; 301 t normal; 307 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (183,48 ft / 177,17 ft) x 19,69 ft x (5,91 / 6,00 ft) (55,92 m / 54,00 m) x 6,00 m x (1,80 / 1,83 m) Armament: 2 - 2,99" / 76,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,51lbs / 6,13kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model 2 x Single mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 2 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 3,19lbs / 1,45kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre Weight of broadside 33 lbs / 15 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 15,0" / 380 mm, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m torpedoes - 0,386 t each, 1,545 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted centre rotating tubes 2nd Torpedoes 2 - 15,0" / 380 mm, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m torpedoes - 0,386 t each, 0,772 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted reloads Armour: - Conning towers: Forward 0,47" / 12 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines, Direct drive, 2 shafts, 5 758 ihp / 4 295 Kw = 25,00 kts Range 400nm at 10,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 15 tons (100% coal) Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery Complement: 35 - 46 Cost: £0,038 million / $0,150 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 11 tons, 3,5% - Guns: 7 tons, 2,2% - Weapons: 4 tons, 1,3% Armour: 0 tons, 0,2% - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0,2% Machinery: 185 tons, 61,5% Hull, fittings & equipment: 88 tons, 29,1% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 17 tons, 5,7% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 88 lbs / 40 Kg = 6,6 x 3,0 " / 76 mm shells or 0,4 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,51 Metacentric height 0,9 ft / 0,3 m Roll period: 8,8 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 35 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,10 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 0,49 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,511 / 0,514 Length to Beam Ratio: 9,00 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 14,34 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 73 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 13,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Forward deck: 34,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Aft deck: 35,00%, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m - Quarter deck: 13,00%, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m - Average freeboard: 8,50 ft / 2,59 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 203,9% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 81,5% Waterplane Area: 2 404 Square feet or 223 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 17% Structure weight / hull surface area: 21 lbs/sq ft or 102 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,60 - Longitudinal: 2,35 - Overall: 0,69 Extremely poor machinery, storage, compartmentation space Cramped accommodation and workspace room Caution: Lacks seaworthiness - very limited seakeeping ability Канонерские лодки: сериями по 3: для ЧМ 1 группа (3 корабля), БМ 2 группы (6 кораблей), ТО - 2 группы (6 кораблей) laid down 1892, Displacement: 984 t light; 1 044 t standard; 1 100 t normal; 1 146 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (193,57 ft / 183,73 ft) x 39,37 ft x (9,84 / 10,16 ft) (59,00 m / 56,00 m) x 12,00 m x (3,00 / 3,10 m) Armament: 4 - 5,98" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,07lbs / 49,02kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1892 Model 2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread 2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft 8 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 3,19lbs / 1,45kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1892 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread Weight of broadside 458 lbs / 208 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 4,02" / 102 mm 91,86 ft / 28,00 m 7,22 ft / 2,20 m Ends: 0,98" / 25 mm 72,18 ft / 22,00 m 7,22 ft / 2,20 m 19,69 ft / 6,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 77% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,47" / 12 mm - - 2nd: 0,31" / 8 mm - - - Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 0,98" / 25 mm Forecastle: 0,47" / 12 mm Quarter deck: 0,71" / 18 mm - Conning towers: Forward 2,01" / 51 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines, Direct drive, 2 shafts, 1 058 ihp / 789 Kw = 13,00 kts Range 1 200nm at 10,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 101 tons (100% coal) Complement: 95 - 124 Cost: £0,083 million / $0,331 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 79 tons, 7,2% - Guns: 79 tons, 7,2% Armour: 254 tons, 23,0% - Belts: 152 tons, 13,8% - Armament: 11 tons, 1,0% - Armour Deck: 86 tons, 7,8% - Conning Tower: 5 tons, 0,4% Machinery: 189 tons, 17,2% Hull, fittings & equipment: 462 tons, 42,0% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 116 tons, 10,6% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 1 779 lbs / 807 Kg = 16,6 x 6,0 " / 152 mm shells or 0,9 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,79 Metacentric height 3,2 ft / 1,0 m Roll period: 9,3 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,10 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,43 Hull form characteristics: Hull has raised forecastle, a ram bow and a cruiser stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,541 / 0,546 Length to Beam Ratio: 4,67 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 13,55 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 3,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 17,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Forward deck: 33,00%, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m - Aft deck: 36,00%, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Average freeboard: 7,57 ft / 2,31 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 76,7% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 65,9% Waterplane Area: 5 006 Square feet or 465 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 131% Structure weight / hull surface area: 78 lbs/sq ft or 382 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,40 - Longitudinal: 3,13 - Overall: 1,52 Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space Cramped accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily В инициативном порядке предложен проект монитора с 1х2 12" (унификация башен и установок), 1 8" в корме и 4х1 6" (мини-Николай).
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