Перспективные и проблемные Аи проекты кораблей

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Перспективные и проблемные Аи проекты кораблей

von Echenbach: Различно обсуждаемо. умеренно критикуемо, и аккуратно примериваемо к реальным возможностям.

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von Echenbach: СК - вполне ещё 2-4 войдет, но насколько будут для них реальные цели? И осложнение управления огнем. Отогнать 1-2 ЭМ имеемого минимально достаточно (+2 шт пушек м.б.). "Утыкать" ЗА - место для ЗА имеется. Проект для 14 года. Пара-четверка салютных/зенитных 51-88мм всегда можно пристроить. А если сразу ЗА много, то англам проект может понравится, и Хаукинсов, ТКР своих, доработают.

von Echenbach: Аллюзии с альисторическим "Такао-какао": Легкий линейный крейсер АИ "Красный Такао": вместо 10 8" предложено 5 10", но лучше смотрится замена 8" на 3 башни с 12"/52. Не столько башни, сколько усиленные палубные башнеподобные установки. Для ЧФ. аи лг-лн кр, СССР, АИ супер Такао-Шрее 1932 Displacement: 13 526 t light; 14 390 t standard; 14 759 t normal; 15 054 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (651,10 ft / 639,76 ft) x 62,34 ft x (22,97 / 23,32 ft) (198,45 m / 195,00 m) x 19,00 m x (7,00 / 7,11 m) Armament: 6 - 12,01" / 305 mm 52,0 cal guns - 924,41lbs / 419,31kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model 3 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, majority forward 1 raised mount - superfiring 16 - 3,94" / 100,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,77lbs / 13,96kg shells, 350 per gun (м.б. 12-16 130/40 АИ) Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model 4 x Twin mounts on sides, forward deck aft 4 x Twin mounts on sides, aft deck forward 16 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 55,0 cal guns - 1,67lbs / 0,76kg shells, 750 per gun Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model 4 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread 4 x Twin mounts on centreline, aft deck forward Weight of broadside 6 066 lbs / 2 751 kg Main Torpedoes 6 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 0,997 t each, 5,980 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 3,94" / 100 mm 341,21 ft / 104,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: 1,57" / 40 mm 131,23 ft / 40,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m 167,32 ft / 51,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 82% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 3,94" / 100 mm - 3,94" / 100 mm 2nd: 1,57" / 40 mm - 0,79" / 20 mm 3rd: 0,79" / 20 mm - 0,59" / 15 mm - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 1,57" / 40 mm Forecastle: 0,79" / 20 mm Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm - Conning towers: Forward 3,94" / 100 mm, Aft 1,18" / 30 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 87 508 shp / 65 281 Kw = 31,00 kts Range 2 200nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 664 tons Complement: 669 - 870 Cost: £5,273 million / $21,093 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 758 tons, 5,1% - Guns: 746 tons, 5,1% - Weapons: 12 tons, 0,1% Armour: 1 611 tons, 10,9% - Belts: 662 tons, 4,5% - Armament: 89 tons, 0,6% - Armour Deck: 794 tons, 5,4% - Conning Towers: 66 tons, 0,4% Machinery: 2 583 tons, 17,5% Hull, fittings & equipment: 8 574 tons, 58,1% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 233 tons, 8,4% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 20 867 lbs / 9 465 Kg = 24,1 x 12,0 " / 305 mm shells or 3,0 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,11 Metacentric height 3,0 ft / 0,9 m Roll period: 15,1 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 58 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,68 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,16 Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, an extended bulbous bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,564 / 0,566 Length to Beam Ratio: 10,26 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 27,00 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 21,00 degrees Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 29,53 ft / 9,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Aft deck: 37,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Quarter deck: 13,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Average freeboard: 21,36 ft / 6,51 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 79,9% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 165,8% Waterplane Area: 28 901 Square feet or 2 685 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 149% Structure weight / hull surface area: 192 lbs/sq ft or 935 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,73 - Longitudinal: 2,47 - Overall: 1,79 Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room

GromoBoy: С трудом представляю себе 12" палубную установку. Времена давно не те уже...

von Echenbach: Поворотный стол, , зарядные устройства. Фактически - барбет с лёгкой броневой защитой. Англы пользовали защиту 6-8 дм в 25мм, как и япы. Попробуйте свой вариант. Кстати, к вышепредложенному проекту добавление: возвышенная башня/установка - в корме. Вот, как дополнение - с башенными установками. Естественно, проект ещё требует доработки, но принципиальных отличий нет: Красный Ташкент, СССР Лг Лн КР аи laid down 1934 Displacement: 13 004 t light; 13 598 t standard; 14 000 t normal; 14 322 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (668,00 ft / 646,33 ft) x 59,06 ft x (21,33 / 21,72 ft) (203,61 m / 197,00 m) x 18,00 m x (6,50 / 6,62 m) Armament: 6 - 12,01" / 305 mm 52,0 cal guns - 924,41lbs / 419,31kg shells, 70 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1934 Model 3 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, majority aft 1 raised mount aft - superfiring 20 - 3,94" / 100,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,77lbs / 13,96kg shells, 250 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model 8 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread 2 x Twin mounts on centreline, forward deck aft 2 raised mounts 16 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 55,0 cal guns - 1,67lbs / 0,76kg shells, 850 per gun Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model 8 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread Weight of broadside 6 189 lbs / 2 807 kg Main Torpedoes 6 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 1,005 t each, 6,028 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 4,72" / 120 mm 393,70 ft / 120,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m Ends: Unarmoured Main Belt covers 94% of normal length Main Belt inclined 13,00 degrees (positive = in) - Hull void: 0,79" / 20 mm 393,70 ft / 120,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 3,94" / 100 mm 1,18" / 30 mm 3,54" / 90 mm 2nd: 0,98" / 25 mm - 0,98" / 25 mm 3rd: 0,59" / 15 mm - - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 1,57" / 40 mm Forecastle: 0,79" / 20 mm Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm - Conning towers: Forward 1,57" / 40 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Electric motors, 3 shafts, 65 882 shp / 49 148 Kw = 29,00 kts Range 2 600nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 725 tons Complement: 643 - 836 Cost: £6,631 million / $26,523 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 1 256 tons, 9,0% - Guns: 1 244 tons, 8,9% - Weapons: 12 tons, 0,1% Armour: 2 395 tons, 17,1% - Belts: 1 010 tons, 7,2% - Void: 113 tons, 0,8% - Armament: 468 tons, 3,3% - Armour Deck: 784 tons, 5,6% - Conning Tower: 20 tons, 0,1% Machinery: 1 895 tons, 13,5% Hull, fittings & equipment: 7 457 tons, 53,3% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 996 tons, 7,1% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 21 119 lbs / 9 579 Kg = 24,4 x 12,0 " / 305 mm shells or 2,7 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,00 Metacentric height 2,3 ft / 0,7 m Roll period: 16,4 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 52 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 2,19 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2,00 Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, an extended bulbous bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,602 / 0,605 Length to Beam Ratio: 10,94 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 27,02 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 26 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 21,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m - Aft deck: 35,00%, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Average freeboard: 26,80 ft / 8,17 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 84,2% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 220,0% Waterplane Area: 28 678 Square feet or 2 664 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 115% Structure weight / hull surface area: 146 lbs/sq ft or 711 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,01 - Longitudinal: 3,33 - Overall: 1,14 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather Warning: mount cannot have below deck armour - 2nd Battery P.S.: фактически получается корпус кр пр. 68, в качестве max можно установить 3х3 305/52. С ГЭУ, подобной от лидеров т. Ленинград

von Echenbach: http://shot.qip.ru/00SLLg-2qYwKHavZ/ АИ Кельн 1912 Т ЛгКР 8 210.

Пан директор: У немцев линейка 210-мм броненосных крейсеров закончились на Блюхере. В принципе продолжать ее можно, но проблема в том что линейные крейсера были не на много дороже. Блюхер стоил - 28 532 000 марок, Фон Дер Тан - 36 523 000 марок.

von Echenbach: За цену 2 -2,5 легких крейсера - 1 тяжелый (лёгкий броненосный с 8 210), за 1,5 от ЛгКР - 1 лёгкий усиленный (Бремзе-Красный Кавказ с 4 210).

Инженер Сидоров: Рискну вынести на суд общества такую вот карапь (естественно, в моей "фирменной системе метрических калибров и толщин брони): Социалистическая Россия, СССР Линейный корабль laid down 1940 Displacement: 51 622 t light; 54 259 t standard; 56 000 t normal; 57 393 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (938,33 ft / 918,64 ft) x 104,99 ft x (32,81 / 33,49 ft) (286,00 m / 280,00 m) x 32,00 m x (10,00 / 10,21 m) Armament: 8 - 15,75" / 400 mm 50,0 cal guns - 2 067,27lbs / 937,70kg shells, 125 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1940 Model 2 x 4-gun mounts on centreline, forward deck forward 1 raised mount - superfiring 20 - 5,51" / 140 mm 55,0 cal guns - 90,37lbs / 40,99kg shells, 250 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1940 Model 8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread 8 raised mounts 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 2 raised mounts 10 - 3,94" / 100,0 mm 55,0 cal guns - 32,93lbs / 14,94kg shells, 500 per gun Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1940 Model 10 x Single mounts on sides amidships 10 raised mounts 32 - 1,38" / 35,0 mm 70,0 cal guns - 1,47lbs / 0,66kg shells, 1 000 per gun Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1940 Model 8 x 2 row quad mounts on sides amidships 8 double raised mounts Weight of broadside 18 722 lbs / 8 492 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 15,7" / 400 mm 524,93 ft / 160,00 m 21,33 ft / 6,50 m Ends: 5,51" / 140 mm 328,08 ft / 100,00 m 21,33 ft / 6,50 m 65,62 ft / 20,00 m Unarmoured ends Upper: 3,94" / 100 mm 524,93 ft / 160,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Main Belt covers 88% of normal length - Torpedo Bulkhead: 2,76" / 70 mm 524,93 ft / 160,00 m 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Hull Bulges: 1,97" / 50 mm 524,93 ft / 160,00 m 18,04 ft / 5,50 m - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 12,6" / 320 mm 12,6" / 320 mm 12,6" / 320 mm 2nd: 5,51" / 140 mm 3,94" / 100 mm 5,51" / 140 mm 3rd: 1,97" / 50 mm - - 4th: 0,79" / 20 mm 0,79" / 20 mm - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: 2,76" / 70 mm For and Aft decks Forecastle: 1,97" / 50 mm Quarter deck: 5,51" / 140 mm - Conning towers: Forward 12,60" / 320 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 3 shafts, 221 307 shp / 165 095 Kw = 32,00 kts Range 4 000nm at 16,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 3 134 tons Complement: 1 819 - 2 366 Cost: £27,492 million / $109,966 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 4 385 tons, 7,8% Armour: 20 466 tons, 36,5% - Belts: 9 729 tons, 17,4% - Torpedo bulkhead: 1 229 tons, 2,2% - Bulges: 690 tons, 1,2% - Armament: 4 640 tons, 8,3% - Armour Deck: 3 781 tons, 6,8% - Conning Tower: 397 tons, 0,7% Machinery: 5 917 tons, 10,6% Hull, fittings & equipment: 20 853 tons, 37,2% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4 378 tons, 7,8% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 86 574 lbs / 39 269 Kg = 44,3 x 15,7 " / 400 mm shells or 12,0 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,01 Metacentric height 5,5 ft / 1,7 m Roll period: 18,8 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 64 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,98 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,28 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and a cruiser stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,619 / 0,622 Length to Beam Ratio: 8,75 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 30,31 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 25,00%, 36,09 ft / 11,00 m, 32,81 ft / 10,00 m - Forward deck: 40,00%, 32,81 ft / 10,00 m, 32,81 ft / 10,00 m - Aft deck: 25,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Quarter deck: 10,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m - Average freeboard: 29,86 ft / 9,10 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 82,7% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 218,3% Waterplane Area: 71 827 Square feet or 6 673 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 110% Structure weight / hull surface area: 216 lbs/sq ft or 1 055 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,97 - Longitudinal: 1,28 - Overall: 1,00 Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

von Echenbach: О модернизации германских дредноутов. Навеяно засохшей темой на ФАИ с несколько "однобокими/кривыми" проектами - сохранение бортовых башен. Что не есть, вероятно, хорошо. Варианты, пока без детализации развесовки, изменения бронирования и скорости (броня сохраняется, скорость уменьшается): 1. Плановые перестройки дредноутов в а) корабли артиллерийской поддержки линии (недо- супер Броненосцы береговой обороны) с 3-4 х2 380/40-45, СК - 12 - 105, ТА долой, б) 3х2 420. Трехорудийные 350 или 380 мм башни - сомнительны. 2 вариант: со сменой МКО (дизеля или ТЗА/ТЭД) и артиллерией 3х2 380, м.б. в плане "модернизации" оставшихся "версальских" (АИ 4 дредноута) корабля.

von Echenbach: Важно мнение. При расположении установок/башен по условно линейной системе (для моих БР и КР "12 Апостолов", "аи Баян-Нахимов", аи "Кельн-Ст Георг), т.е. при двух башнях в носу: насколько эстетично/рационально будет выглядеть размещение между башнями боевой бронированой рубки и легкого ходового мостика?

GromoBoy: На "екатеринах" вполне ставили.

von Echenbach: Забытые "потаёные суда". О подводных лодках. Найден в аи-архиве аи-проект 1852 г (или 1866) Герна-Александровского. АИ ГА-4 -Герн-Александровский, аи РИ ПЛ-туерного типа laid down 1852. Корпус имеет удлиненную ходовую рубку на верхней палубе, полуторакорпусная конструкция. Установлены: зеркальный подъемный перископ, переходная рубочная камера, экспериментальная электромашина и АКБ и поворотная винторулевая группа для управления кораблем при стоянке на якоре-тележке туерной. Глубина погружения - 15-20 м. Автономность подводная - 50 часов. Экипаж 5-7 чел. Устанавливается на позицию с помощью водолазов по заранее уложенному туерному цепному путепроводу. Кронштадт, Ревель, Гельсингфорс, Севастополь, Керчь. Возможно применение для атак неприятельских портов и якорных стоянок - при доработке винтов и машины... Построено: улучшенном варианте - 12, стационарных лодок - 24, опытовых - 2. Displacement: 24 t light; 24 t standard; 24 t normal; 24 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (43,72 ft / 42,65 ft) x 6,56 ft x (4,92 / 4,94 ft) (13,33 m / 13,00 m) x 2,00 m x (1,50 / 1,50 m) Armament: Main Torpedoes 4 - 13,8" / 350 mm, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m torpedoes - 0,574 t each, 2,297 t total submerged bow tubes Mines 4 - 264,55 lbs / 120,00 kg mines - 0,472 t total in Above water - Stern racks/rails Machinery: Battery powered No drive to shaft, 1 shaft, 6 shp / 4 Kw = 5,00 kts Range 20nm at 3,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 0 tons Complement: 5 - 7 Cost: £0,001 million / $0,005 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 5 tons, 21,3% - Weapons: 5 tons, 21,3% Machinery: 2 tons, 9,7% Hull, fittings & equipment: 16 tons, 66,4% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 tons, 2,6% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): -16 lbs / -7 Kg = -0,3 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or NaN torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,08 Metacentric height 0,1 ft / 0,0 m Roll period: 8,8 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,00 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2,00 Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a normal bow and a cruiser stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,619 / 0,620 Length to Beam Ratio: 6,50 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 6,53 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 34 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 5,00 degrees Stern overhang: 0,98 ft / 0,30 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 17,00%, 0,98 ft / 0,30 m, 3,28 ft / 1,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 3,28 ft / 1,00 m, 3,28 ft / 1,00 m - Aft deck: 38,00%, 3,28 ft / 1,00 m, 3,28 ft / 1,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 3,28 ft / 1,00 m, 1,64 ft / 0,50 m - Average freeboard: 3,00 ft / 0,91 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): -61,8% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 25,5% Waterplane Area: 204 Square feet or 19 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 516% Structure weight / hull surface area: 33 lbs/sq ft or 163 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,42 - Longitudinal: 13,19 - Overall: 1,77 Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space Extremely poor accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Excellent seaboat, comfortable, rides out heavy weather easily

von Echenbach: Вариант малого СКР ПВО-ПЛО ВОХР. Идею подала дискуссия на фаи - http://fai.org.ru/forum/topic/41515-mikro-kreyser/?page=11 laid down 1931 Displacement: 451 t light; 473 t standard; 500 t normal; 521 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (232,17 ft / 219,82 ft) x 19,69 ft x (7,22 / 7,45 ft) (70,76 m / 67,00 m) x 6,00 m x (2,20 / 2,27 m) Armament: 6 - 2,99" / 76,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,51lbs / 6,13kg shells, 250 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1931 Model 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 4 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 55,0 cal guns - 1,67lbs / 0,76kg shells, 450 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1931 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft 4 raised mounts Weight of broadside 88 lbs / 40 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m torpedoes - 0,716 t each, 2,866 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes Main DC/AS Mortars 2 - 110,23 lbs / 50,00 kg Depth Charges + 18 reloads - 0,984 t total in Stern depth charge racks 2nd DC/AS Mortars 2 - 110,23 lbs / 50,00 kg Depth Charges + 8 reloads - 0,492 t total in Depth charge throwers Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 0,47" / 12 mm 134,51 ft / 41,00 m 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Ends: Unarmoured Main Belt covers 94% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,55" / 14 mm 0,28" / 7 mm - 2nd: 0,35" / 9 mm - - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 0,47" / 12 mm - Conning towers: Forward 0,47" / 12 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Diesel Internal combustion motors, No drive to shaft, 2 shafts, 4 196 shp / 3 130 Kw = 22,00 kts Range 800nm at 16,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 47 tons Complement: 52 - 68 Cost: £0,166 million / $0,662 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 25 tons, 4,9% - Guns: 19 tons, 3,8% - Weapons: 6 tons, 1,1% Armour: 51 tons, 10,2% - Belts: 17 tons, 3,4% - Armament: 9 tons, 1,9% - Armour Deck: 24 tons, 4,8% - Conning Tower: 1 tons, 0,1% Machinery: 125 tons, 25,1% Hull, fittings & equipment: 249 tons, 49,9% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 49 tons, 9,8% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 660 lbs / 300 Kg = 49,3 x 3,0 " / 76 mm shells or 0,9 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,02 Metacentric height 0,5 ft / 0,1 m Roll period: 12,3 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 59 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,43 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,18 Hull form characteristics: Hull has raised forecastle, rise forward of midbreak, raised quarterdeck , a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,560 / 0,565 Length to Beam Ratio: 11,17 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 16,68 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 61 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 31,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 17,00%, 15,09 ft / 4,60 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Forward deck: 27,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Aft deck: 43,00%, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m - Quarter deck: 13,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Average freeboard: 9,12 ft / 2,78 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 92,5% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 88,8% Waterplane Area: 3 174 Square feet or 295 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 145% Structure weight / hull surface area: 42 lbs/sq ft or 208 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,24 - Longitudinal: 3,58 - Overall: 1,38 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Cramped accommodation and workspace room

von Echenbach: Проект перспективного броненосного артиллерийско-ракетного буксира-тарана мониторного типа прибрезной зоны и точечной пограничной охраны :-) на скорую руку, пока муза рядом: аи Хасан, аи РФ аи монитор-таран laid down 2020 Displacement: 794 t light; 811 t standard; 835 t normal; 855 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (219,82 ft / 209,97 ft) x 26,25 ft x (9,84 / 10,02 ft) (67,00 m / 64,00 m) x 8,00 m x (3,00 / 3,05 m) Armament: 1 - 5,12" / 130 mm 45,0 cal gun - 0,00lbs / 0,00kg shells, 150 per gun Dual purpose gun in turret on barbette mount, 2020 Model 1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck aft 2 - 2,24" / 57,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 0,00lbs / 0,00kg shells, 550 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in turret on barbette mount, 2020 Model 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 10 - 1,18" / 30,0 mm 65,0 cal guns - 0,00lbs / 0,00kg shells, 150 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 2020 Model 2 x 5-gun mounts on sides, aft deck forward Weight of broadside 0 lbs / 0 kg Main Torpedoes 12 - 21,0" / 533 mm, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m torpedoes - 1,489 t each, 17,865 t total In 6 sets of deck mounted reloads Main DC/AS Mortars 2 - 198,42 lbs / 90,00 kg trainable AS Mortars + 8 reloads - 0,886 t total 2nd DC/AS Mortars 2 - 198,42 lbs / 90,00 kg ahead throwing AS Mortars + 18 reloads - 1,772 t total Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 3,54" / 90 mm 108,27 ft / 33,00 m 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Ends: 1,77" / 45 mm 49,21 ft / 15,00 m 6,56 ft / 2,00 m 52,49 ft / 16,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 79% of normal length Main Belt inclined 24,00 degrees (positive = in) - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) 2nd: 4,72" / 120 mm 3,94" / 100 mm 3,54" / 90 mm 3rd: 3,54" / 90 mm 2,76" / 70 mm 3,54" / 90 mm 4th: 1,18" / 30 mm 0,47" / 12 mm 1,18" / 30 mm - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 1,18" / 30 mm Forecastle: 0,47" / 12 mm Quarter deck: 0,47" / 12 mm - Conning towers: Forward 1,18" / 30 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Diesel Internal combustion generators, Electric motors, 2 shafts, 8 155 shp / 6 084 Kw = 24,00 kts Range 1 200nm at 12,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 44 tons Complement: 76 - 100 Cost: £1,132 million / $4,529 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 35 tons, 4,2% - Weapons: 35 tons, 4,2% Armour: 268 tons, 32,1% - Belts: 133 tons, 15,9% - Armament: 54 tons, 6,5% - Armour Deck: 79 tons, 9,4% - Conning Tower: 2 tons, 0,3% Machinery: 195 tons, 23,4% Hull, fittings & equipment: 296 tons, 35,4% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 41 tons, 4,9% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 0 lbs / 0 Kg = NaN x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 0,1 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,16 Metacentric height 0,9 ft / 0,3 m Roll period: 11,7 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 31 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,00 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 0,38 Hull form characteristics: Hull has raised forecastle, a ram bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,539 / 0,542 Length to Beam Ratio: 8,00 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 16,76 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 70 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 23,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Aft deck: 38,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Quarter deck: 12,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Average freeboard: 9,97 ft / 3,04 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 76,7% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 81,4% Waterplane Area: 3 962 Square feet or 368 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 127% Structure weight / hull surface area: 44 lbs/sq ft or 213 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,99 - Longitudinal: 2,65 - Overall: 1,09 Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space Cramped accommodation and workspace room Caution: Lacks seaworthiness - very limited seakeeping ability

von Echenbach: о позабытых англичанах - в рамках непрошедшей игры А-Ф,Р: аи Мерсей, аи Англия аи брп кр laid down 1882 Displacement: 2 079 t light; 2 209 t standard; 3 005 t normal; 3 642 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (291,99 ft / 278,87 ft) x 39,37 ft x (16,40 / 19,22 ft) (89,00 m / 85,00 m) x 12,00 m x (5,00 / 5,86 m) Armament: 8 - 7,01" / 178 mm 32,0 cal guns - 149,76lbs / 67,93kg shells, 80 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1882 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft 4 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward 4 - 4,72" / 120 mm 35,0 cal guns - 46,38lbs / 21,04kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1882 Model 2 x Single mounts on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x Single mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 6 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 35,0 cal guns - 2,79lbs / 1,26kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1882 Model 6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread Weight of broadside 1 400 lbs / 635 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 14,2" / 360 mm, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m torpedoes - 0,145 t each, 0,579 t total In 4 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes Armour: - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 2,99" / 76 mm - 1,46" / 37 mm 2nd: 1,46" / 37 mm - - - Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 4,02" / 102 mm Forecastle: 2,01" / 51 mm Quarter deck: 2,01" / 51 mm - Conning towers: Forward 7,01" / 178 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines, Direct drive, 2 shafts, 3 969 ihp / 2 961 Kw = 16,00 kts Range 8 000nm at 10,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 1 433 tons (100% coal) Complement: 202 - 263 Cost: £0,232 million / $0,929 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 151 tons, 5,0% - Guns: 150 tons, 5,0% - Weapons: 1 tons, 0,0% Armour: 657 tons, 21,9% - Armament: 89 tons, 3,0% - Armour Deck: 537 tons, 17,9% - Conning Tower: 31 tons, 1,0% Machinery: 799 tons, 26,6% Hull, fittings & equipment: 472 tons, 15,7% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 926 tons, 30,8% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 1 671 lbs / 758 Kg = 11,0 x 7,0 " / 178 mm shells or 6,4 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,66 Metacentric height 2,9 ft / 0,9 m Roll period: 9,8 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 99 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,44 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,99 Hull form characteristics: Hull has raised forecastle, raised quarterdeck , a ram bow and a round stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,584 / 0,604 Length to Beam Ratio: 7,08 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 16,70 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Aft deck: 35,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Average freeboard: 11,70 ft / 3,57 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 102,3% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 72,8% Waterplane Area: 7 911 Square feet or 735 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 111% Structure weight / hull surface area: 44 lbs/sq ft or 216 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,54 - Longitudinal: 1,28 - Overall: 0,59 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Cramped accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

von Echenbach: Дредноут "Императрица Мария" - возможный ремонт +модерн. - ? Снять 3 башню, немного назад первую, полубак до 4 башни. Так же "Полтава".

von Echenbach: Очередное аи-"лего"/эконом-проект для ЧФ 1925 года с применением корпусов Истомин и Корнилов (недостроенные Светланы) с добавлением булей, установкой дизелей\дизель-генераторов по 3 2500 л.с. на вал \ 2 по2500 при 22 уз\ и вооружением 3х2 305/40 с ЭБР в облегченных башнях при 3-4 выстр\мин ( башни: 1 - полубак и носовое КО, 2 - 2 КО стволы назад, 3 - 3 КО возвышенно, стволы вперёд) и 16-20 100-мм(8-10х2 Минизини). Коммунар, Пролетарий - laid down 1926, Displacement: 8 935 t light; 9 422 t standard; 9 749 t normal; 10 010 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (543,13 ft / 531,50 ft) x 49,21 ft (Bulges 65,62 ft) x (19,69 / 20,21 ft) (165,55 m / 162,00 m) x 15,00 m (Bulges 20,00 m) x (6,00 / 6,16 m) Armament: 6 - 12,01" / 305 mm 40,0 cal guns - 829,70lbs / 376,34kg shells, 90 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1926 Model 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft deck forward 1 raised mount aft - superfiring 16 - 3,94" / 100,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,77lbs / 13,96kg shells, 150 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1926 Model 4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, aft deck aft 4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft 4 raised mounts 4 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1,56lbs / 0,71kg shells, 350 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1926 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread Weight of broadside 5 477 lbs / 2 484 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 2,95" / 75 mm 387,14 ft / 118,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: 0,98" / 25 mm 118,11 ft / 36,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 26,25 ft / 8,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 112% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 3,54" / 90 mm 1,18" / 30 mm 4,72" / 120 mm 2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - - - Armoured deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 0,94" / 24 mm Forecastle: 0,71" / 18 mm Quarter deck: 0,87" / 22 mm - Conning towers: Forward 2,99" / 76 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Diesel Internal combustion motors, Electric cruising motors plus geared drives, 4 shafts, 28 493 shp / 21 256 Kw = 24,00 kts Range 2 600nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 589 tons Complement: 489 - 637 Cost: £3,032 million / $12,129 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 1 063 tons, 10,9% - Guns: 1 063 tons, 10,9% Armour: 1 199 tons, 12,3% - Belts: 493 tons, 5,1% - Armament: 379 tons, 3,9% - Armour Deck: 298 tons, 3,1% - Conning Tower: 29 tons, 0,3% Machinery: 912 tons, 9,4% Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 761 tons, 59,1% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 813 tons, 8,3% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 12 538 lbs / 5 687 Kg = 14,5 x 12,0 " / 305 mm shells or 2,3 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,12 Metacentric height 2,2 ft / 0,7 m Roll period: 18,8 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 64 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,91 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,27 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and a cruiser stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,497 / 0,497 Length to Beam Ratio: 8,10 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 23,05 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 13,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 21,98 ft / 6,70 m, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m - Forward deck: 18,00%, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m - Aft deck: 49,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Average freeboard: 15,18 ft / 4,63 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 71,5% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 97,8% Waterplane Area: 17 380 Square feet or 1 615 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 136% Structure weight / hull surface area: 206 lbs/sq ft or 1 004 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,44 - Longitudinal: 2,09 - Overall: 1,49 Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space Adequate accommodation and workspace room Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

von Echenbach: аи-канонерская лодка ПВО. Перестроены из землечерпалок. Артиллерия ГК - спаренные аналоги установок типа "минизини" с 76/45 аи. 6 ед для ЧФ. laid down 1937 Displacement: 837 t light; 873 t standard; 888 t normal; 900 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (181,59 ft / 177,17 ft) x 39,37 ft x (8,20 / 8,29 ft) (55,35 m / 54,00 m) x 12,00 m x (2,50 / 2,53 m) Armament: 8 - 2,99" / 76,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,51lbs / 6,13kg shells, 250 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1937 Model 4 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread 4 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 55,0 cal guns - 1,67lbs / 0,76kg shells, 650 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1937 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward 2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck aft 4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 65,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 950 per gun Machine guns in deck mounts, 1937 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward 2 x Single mounts on centreline, aft deck aft Weight of broadside 115 lbs / 52 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 0,71" / 18 mm 144,36 ft / 44,00 m 7,87 ft / 2,40 m Ends: Unarmoured Main Belt covers 125% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,24" / 6 mm - - 2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 0,47" / 12 mm - Conning towers: Forward 0,00" / 0 mm, Aft 0,71" / 18 mm Machinery: Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines, Direct drive, 2 shafts, 956 ihp / 713 Kw = 13,00 kts Range 900nm at 8,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 27 tons (100% coal) Complement: 80 - 105 Cost: £0,238 million / $0,950 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 25 tons, 2,8% - Guns: 25 tons, 2,8% Armour: 77 tons, 8,7% - Belts: 35 tons, 3,9% - Armament: 5 tons, 0,5% - Armour Deck: 36 tons, 4,1% - Conning Tower: 1 tons, 0,2% Machinery: 58 tons, 6,6% Hull, fittings & equipment: 677 tons, 76,2% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 50 tons, 5,7% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 4 057 lbs / 1 840 Kg = 302,9 x 3,0 " / 76 mm shells or 2,7 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,50 Metacentric height 2,5 ft / 0,8 m Roll period: 10,5 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 78 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,04 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,56 Hull form characteristics: Hull has raised forecastle, rise aft of midbreak, a normal bow and a round stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,543 / 0,545 Length to Beam Ratio: 4,50 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 13,31 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 5,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 16,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Forward deck: 52,00%, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m - Aft deck: 19,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 13,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 14,44 ft / 4,40 m - Average freeboard: 9,48 ft / 2,89 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 30,8% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 95,8% Waterplane Area: 4 836 Square feet or 449 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 352% Structure weight / hull surface area: 108 lbs/sq ft or 525 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 2,35 - Longitudinal: 6,60 - Overall: 2,61 Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space Adequate accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

von Echenbach: аи-крейсера ПВО. Перестроены из недостроенных крейсеров типа "Светлана". Артиллерия ГК - спаренные аналоги установок типа "минизини" аи. 2 ед для ЧФ. laid down 1928 Displacement: 5 629 t light; 5 889 t standard; 6 069 t normal; 6 213 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (528,05 ft / 518,37 ft) x 49,21 ft x (14,76 / 15,04 ft) (160,95 m / 158,00 m) x 15,00 m x (4,50 / 4,58 m) Armament: 28 - 3,94" / 100,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,77lbs / 13,96kg shells, 250 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1928 Model 6 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread 2 raised mounts - superfiring 8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, aft deck forward 24 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 55,0 cal guns - 1,67lbs / 0,76kg shells, 850 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1928 Model 4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft 8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, aft deck forward 8 raised mounts Weight of broadside 902 lbs / 409 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 2,99" / 76 mm 288,71 ft / 88,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: 1,46" / 37 mm 203,41 ft / 62,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 26,25 ft / 8,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 86% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,47" / 12 mm 0,31" / 8 mm - 2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - - - Armoured deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 0,98" / 25 mm Forecastle: 0,87" / 22 mm Quarter deck: 0,87" / 22 mm - Conning towers: Forward 2,99" / 76 mm, Aft 0,98" / 25 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 27 599 shp / 20 589 Kw = 26,00 kts Range 1 800nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 324 tons Complement: 343 - 446 Cost: £1,383 million / $5,533 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 182 tons, 3,0% - Guns: 182 tons, 3,0% Armour: 866 tons, 14,3% - Belts: 465 tons, 7,7% - Armament: 39 tons, 0,6% - Armour Deck: 333 tons, 5,5% - Conning Towers: 29 tons, 0,5% Machinery: 859 tons, 14,2% Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 722 tons, 61,3% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 440 tons, 7,3% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 12 789 lbs / 5 801 Kg = 419,2 x 3,9 " / 100 mm shells or 2,5 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,18 Metacentric height 2,3 ft / 0,7 m Roll period: 13,5 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 55 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,17 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,10 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,564 / 0,567 Length to Beam Ratio: 10,53 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 24,28 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 9,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 17,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Forward deck: 26,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Aft deck: 42,00%, 11,15 ft / 3,40 m, 11,81 ft / 3,60 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 11,81 ft / 3,60 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Average freeboard: 13,97 ft / 4,26 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 55,7% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 137,2% Waterplane Area: 18 487 Square feet or 1 718 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 201% Structure weight / hull surface area: 143 lbs/sq ft or 698 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 2,04 - Longitudinal: 1,57 - Overall: 1,68 Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room

von Echenbach: аи-проект "броненосного миноносца", версия 3а (почти классический БрБО). Применение - у портов, в т.ч. вражеских или в зоне вероятного эскадренного боя - состав отряда 3-4 ед. Версия "2" - без ГК (или 1-2 носовые), до 18-24 та на борт. Торпеды перврго залпа / или 1/2 - дальноходные аи (в аи 1888 соответствуют обр. 04-06 гг или обр 1912-16 гг). "Куронь" - laid down 1888, Barbette ship, Displacement: 6 505 t light; 6 865 t standard; 7 117 t normal; 7 319 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (380,58 ft / 364,17 ft) x 55,77 ft x (19,69 / 20,15 ft) (116,00 m / 111,00 m) x 17,00 m x (6,00 / 6,14 m) Armament: 3 - 12,01" / 305 mm 35,0 cal guns - 799,46lbs / 362,63kg shells, 70 per gun Breech loading guns in open barbette mounts, 1888 Model 1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x Single mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 16 - 5,98" / 152 mm 3,0 cal guns - 91,10lbs / 41,32kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1888 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft 4 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas 8 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward 4 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas 12 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 35,0 cal guns - 2,93lbs / 1,33kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1888 Model 12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread Weight of broadside 3 891 lbs / 1 765 kg Main Torpedoes 12 - 15,0" / 380 mm, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m torpedoes - 0,216 t each, 2,590 t total In 12 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes 2nd Torpedoes 12 - 15,0" / 380 mm, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m torpedoes - 0,216 t each, 2,590 t total below water reloads Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 11,0" / 280 mm 239,50 ft / 73,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Ends: 4,72" / 120 mm 108,27 ft / 33,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m 16,40 ft / 5,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 101% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 4,02" / 102 mm - 11,0" / 280 mm 2nd: 5,98" / 152 mm 4,02" / 102 mm - - Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 1,10" / 28 mm Forecastle: 0,71" / 18 mm Quarter deck: 0,87" / 22 mm - Conning towers: Forward 9,45" / 240 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines, Direct drive, 2 shafts, 9 435 ihp / 7 038 Kw = 18,00 kts Range 1 600nm at 10,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 454 tons (100% coal) Complement: 386 - 503 Cost: £0,605 million / $2,419 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 422 tons, 5,9% - Guns: 415 tons, 5,8% - Weapons: 6 tons, 0,1% Armour: 2 289 tons, 32,2% - Belts: 1 099 tons, 15,4% - Armament: 818 tons, 11,5% - Armour Deck: 297 tons, 4,2% - Conning Tower: 75 tons, 1,1% Machinery: 1 779 tons, 25,0% Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 015 tons, 28,3% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 612 tons, 8,6% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 7 082 lbs / 3 212 Kg = 8,4 x 12,0 " / 305 mm shells or 7,6 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,49 Metacentric height 4,1 ft / 1,3 m Roll period: 11,5 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 76 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,48 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,52 Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a ram bow and a cruiser stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,623 / 0,626 Length to Beam Ratio: 6,53 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 19,08 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 7,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Aft deck: 37,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Average freeboard: 13,60 ft / 4,15 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 100,1% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 97,0% Waterplane Area: 15 177 Square feet or 1 410 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 101% Structure weight / hull surface area: 102 lbs/sq ft or 499 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,88 - Longitudinal: 1,67 - Overall: 0,93 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Adequate accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

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