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Перспективные и проблемные Аи проекты кораблей
von Echenbach: Различно обсуждаемо. умеренно критикуемо, и аккуратно примериваемо к реальным возможностям.
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von Echenbach: von Echenbach пишет: аи-крейсера ПВО. Перестроены из недостроенных крейсеров типа "Светлана". Версия "лидеры ПВО" типа аи-"Рысь": laid down 1933, Displacement: 2 422 t light; 2 565 t standard; 2 677 t normal; 2 766 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (415,14 ft / 400,26 ft) x 41,01 ft x (11,48 / 11,76 ft) (126,53 m / 122,00 m) x 12,50 m x (3,50 / 3,58 m) Armament: 20 - 3,94" / 100,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,77lbs / 13,96kg shells, 250 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model 6 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread 2 raised mounts - superfiring 4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, aft deck forward 8 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1,56lbs / 0,71kg shells, 650 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward 4 raised mounts 4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft 4 raised mounts Weight of broadside 628 lbs / 285 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 1,001 t each, 4,003 t total In 1 sets of deck mounted centre rotating tubes Main DC/AS Mortars 2 - 145,51 lbs / 66,00 kg Depth Charges + 8 reloads - 0,650 t total in Stern depth charge racks Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 0,55" / 14 mm 252,62 ft / 77,00 m 7,22 ft / 2,20 m Ends: Unarmoured Main Belt covers 97% of normal length Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,55" / 14 mm 0,24" / 6 mm - 2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - - - Armoured deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 0,55" / 14 mm Forecastle: 0,35" / 9 mm Quarter deck: 0,47" / 12 mm - Conning towers: Forward 0,55" / 14 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 41 048 shp / 30 622 Kw = 32,00 kts Range 2 000nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 200 tons Complement: 185 - 241 Cost: £1,313 million / $5,251 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 132 tons, 4,9% - Guns: 123 tons, 4,6% - Weapons: 9 tons, 0,3% Armour: 178 tons, 6,7% - Belts: 42 tons, 1,6% - Armament: 24 tons, 0,9% - Armour Deck: 111 tons, 4,1% - Conning Tower: 2 tons, 0,1% Machinery: 1 159 tons, 43,3% Hull, fittings & equipment: 953 tons, 35,6% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 255 tons, 9,5% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 1 598 lbs / 725 Kg = 52,4 x 3,9 " / 100 mm shells or 0,7 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,35 Metacentric height 2,2 ft / 0,7 m Roll period: 11,5 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 45 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,25 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 0,82 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,497 / 0,501 Length to Beam Ratio: 9,76 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 21,49 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 65 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 21,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 17,00%, 21,65 ft / 6,60 m, 17,72 ft / 5,40 m - Forward deck: 36,00%, 17,72 ft / 5,40 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Aft deck: 35,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 12,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Average freeboard: 15,59 ft / 4,75 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 153,2% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 162,0% Waterplane Area: 11 168 Square feet or 1 038 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 94% Structure weight / hull surface area: 56 lbs/sq ft or 275 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,80 - Longitudinal: 1,75 - Overall: 0,86 Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather Warning: Wrong mount for rapid fire gun - 2nd Battery улучшенный вариант, с высоким бортом -Б) laid down 1933, Displacement: 2 422 t light; 2 565 t standard; 2 677 t normal; 2 766 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (415,64 ft / 400,26 ft) x 41,01 ft x (11,48 / 11,76 ft) (126,69 m / 122,00 m) x 12,50 m x (3,50 / 3,58 m) Armament: 20 - 3,94" / 100,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,77lbs / 13,96kg shells, 250 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model 6 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread 2 raised mounts - superfiring 4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, aft deck forward 8 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1,56lbs / 0,71kg shells, 650 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward 4 raised mounts 4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft 4 raised mounts Weight of broadside 628 lbs / 285 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 1,001 t each, 4,003 t total In 1 sets of deck mounted centre rotating tubes Main DC/AS Mortars 2 - 145,51 lbs / 66,00 kg Depth Charges + 8 reloads - 0,650 t total in Stern depth charge racks Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 0,55" / 14 mm 252,62 ft / 77,00 m 7,22 ft / 2,20 m Ends: Unarmoured Main Belt covers 97% of normal length Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,55" / 14 mm 0,24" / 6 mm - 2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - - - Armoured deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 0,55" / 14 mm Forecastle: 0,35" / 9 mm Quarter deck: 0,47" / 12 mm - Conning towers: Forward 0,55" / 14 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 46 688 shp / 34 829 Kw = 33,00 kts Range 2 000nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 200 tons Complement: 185 - 241 Cost: £1,375 million / $5,501 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 132 tons, 4,9% - Guns: 123 tons, 4,6% - Weapons: 9 tons, 0,3% Armour: 178 tons, 6,7% - Belts: 42 tons, 1,6% - Armament: 24 tons, 0,9% - Armour Deck: 111 tons, 4,1% - Conning Tower: 2 tons, 0,1% Machinery: 1 254 tons, 46,8% Hull, fittings & equipment: 858 tons, 32,1% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 255 tons, 9,5% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 1 242 lbs / 563 Kg = 40,7 x 3,9 " / 100 mm shells or 0,6 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,35 Metacentric height 2,2 ft / 0,7 m Roll period: 11,5 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,28 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,01 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,497 / 0,501 Length to Beam Ratio: 9,76 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 21,49 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 66 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 21,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 17,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 18,37 ft / 5,60 m - Forward deck: 36,00%, 18,37 ft / 5,60 m, 18,37 ft / 5,60 m - Aft deck: 35,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Quarter deck: 12,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Average freeboard: 17,09 ft / 5,21 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 164,5% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 177,8% Waterplane Area: 11 168 Square feet or 1 038 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 84% Structure weight / hull surface area: 48 lbs/sq ft or 234 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,65 - Longitudinal: 2,00 - Overall: 0,73 Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Warning: Wrong mount for rapid fire gun - 2nd Battery
von Echenbach: аи кр ПВО типа Грейг (Светлана): https://i.postimg.cc/9QjRXBg5/20221224-120808.jpg 1 этап - 14х2 76, 1926аи; 2 этап - 14х2 100 (м.б. сначала т. Минизини, далее - что-то аи?)
von Echenbach: аи супер-Пересвет, 3х3 10" и 12х1 4,7". laid down 1898, Displacement: 10 092 t light; 10 682 t standard; 11 053 t normal; 11 350 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (464,09 ft / 442,91 ft) x 68,90 ft x (22,97 / 23,45 ft) (141,45 m / 135,00 m) x 21,00 m x (7,00 / 7,15 m) Armament: 9 - 10,00" / 254 mm 45,0 cal guns - 504,26lbs / 228,73kg shells, 120 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1898 Model 1 x 3-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount aft - superfiring 12 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 53,17lbs / 24,12kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1898 Model 12 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft 6 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas 12 - 2,95" / 75,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 12,98lbs / 5,89kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1898 Model 12 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 5 332 lbs / 2 419 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 15,0" / 380 mm, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m torpedoes - 0,358 t each, 1,431 t total In 4 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 8,46" / 215 mm 301,84 ft / 92,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Ends: 1,26" / 32 mm 124,67 ft / 38,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m 16,40 ft / 5,00 m Unarmoured ends Upper: 3,15" / 80 mm 262,47 ft / 80,00 m 5,91 ft / 1,80 m Main Belt covers 105% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 9,06" / 230 mm 3,15" / 80 mm 9,06" / 230 mm 2nd: 0,79" / 20 mm 0,39" / 10 mm - 3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 1,42" / 36 mm Forecastle: 1,10" / 28 mm Quarter deck: 1,26" / 32 mm - Conning towers: Forward 7,09" / 180 mm, Aft 2,36" / 60 mm Machinery: Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines, Direct drive, 3 shafts, 13 773 ihp / 10 275 Kw = 19,00 kts Range 2 200nm at 10,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 668 tons (100% coal) Complement: 538 - 700 Cost: £1,127 million / $4,507 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 1 402 tons, 12,7% - Guns: 1 400 tons, 12,7% - Weapons: 2 tons, 0,0% Armour: 2 648 tons, 24,0% - Belts: 1 165 tons, 10,5% - Armament: 832 tons, 7,5% - Armour Deck: 549 tons, 5,0% - Conning Towers: 101 tons, 0,9% Machinery: 2 222 tons, 20,1% Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 821 tons, 34,6% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 961 tons, 8,7% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 11 262 lbs / 5 108 Kg = 22,5 x 10,0 " / 254 mm shells or 5,8 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,23 Metacentric height 4,2 ft / 1,3 m Roll period: 14,2 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 62 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,80 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,87 Hull form characteristics: Hull has raised forecastle, rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and a cruiser stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,552 / 0,555 Length to Beam Ratio: 6,43 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 21,05 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 33 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 21,00 degrees Stern overhang: 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 29,53 ft / 9,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Forward deck: 48,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Aft deck: 20,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Average freeboard: 18,75 ft / 5,71 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 103,7% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 133,7% Waterplane Area: 21 337 Square feet or 1 982 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 96% Structure weight / hull surface area: 145 lbs/sq ft or 709 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,93 - Longitudinal: 2,51 - Overall: 1,03 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
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