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von Echenbach: 2 аи генерация тяжелых крейсеров Японии М.б. у кого будут замечания или собственные предложения - разработки... Почему-то... подумалось... а давненько не брал я японские кораблики :-) Исе - недоавианосец. приличный дредноут. При ограничениях Вашингтоны (+-) японцы строят "легкие" крейсера с 6х3 6" (м.б. и 152 и/или 140 мм?) с возможностью перевооружения на 6х2 8"(203 мм). Архитектура - Исе. Турбины и дальность, броня - Могами или кого-либо из этой фаланги. И ЭМ-лидеры/суперэсминцы с 6х2 127мм, 3х4 ТА ЭМ ПВО - 6х2 100мм.

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Пан директор: 6 100-мм пушек, ТЗА на 15 411 shp, при 800 тоннах стандартного ВИ? Я бы сказал что он перевернется и потонет.

von Echenbach: Пан директор пишет: Я бы сказал что он перевернется и потонет. Почти согласен , но св. Шарпий... От ри Отори меньше на 4000 лс и дальность меньше в два раза, 3х2 100 вместо 3х1 127 / 120. При 800т против 850-50

von Echenbach: Супер-Фурутака аи1932: laid down 1932, 18 (6х3) 203, Displacement: 10 733 t light; 11 399 t standard; 11 789 t normal; 12 102 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (722,02 ft / 702,10 ft) x 65,62 ft x (16,40 / 16,74 ft) (220,07 m / 214,00 m) x 20,00 m x (5,00 / 5,10 m) Armament: 18 - 7,99" / 203 mm 45,0 cal guns - 257,42lbs / 116,76kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model 3 x 3-gun mounts on centreline, forward deck forward 1 raised mount - superfiring 3 x 3-gun mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount aft - superfiring 16 - 2,99" / 76,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,51lbs / 6,13kg shells, 350 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft 2 raised mounts - superfiring 4 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward 2 raised mounts - superfiring 12 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 0,48lbs / 0,22kg shells, 650 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model 6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread Weight of broadside 4 855 lbs / 2 202 kg Main Torpedoes 6 - 21,0" / 533 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 1,331 t each, 7,983 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 5,51" / 140 mm 311,68 ft / 95,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 262,47 ft / 80,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 127,95 ft / 39,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 68% of normal length Main Belt inclined 9,00 degrees (positive = in) - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 3,23" / 82 mm 0,94" / 24 mm 5,51" / 140 mm 2nd: 0,35" / 9 mm 0,24" / 6 mm - - Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 1,10" / 28 mm Forecastle: 0,71" / 18 mm Quarter deck: 0,94" / 24 mm - Conning towers: Forward 4,72" / 120 mm, Aft 1,18" / 30 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 57 820 shp / 43 133 Kw = 29,00 kts Range 3 200nm at 13,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 702 tons Complement: 565 - 735 Cost: £3,833 million / $15,332 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 734 tons, 6,2% - Guns: 718 tons, 6,1% - Weapons: 16 tons, 0,1% Armour: 1 555 tons, 13,2% - Belts: 727 tons, 6,2% - Armament: 113 tons, 1,0% - Armour Deck: 650 tons, 5,5% - Conning Towers: 66 tons, 0,6% Machinery: 1 707 tons, 14,5% Hull, fittings & equipment: 6 737 tons, 57,1% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 056 tons, 9,0% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 23 875 lbs / 10 829 Kg = 93,5 x 8,0 " / 203 mm shells or 2,8 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,16 Metacentric height 3,5 ft / 1,1 m Roll period: 14,7 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 67 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,51 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,34 Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a normal bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,546 / 0,549 Length to Beam Ratio: 10,70 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 28,27 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 21,00 degrees Stern overhang: 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 17,00%, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 21,33 ft / 6,50 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 21,33 ft / 6,50 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Aft deck: 39,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Average freeboard: 20,11 ft / 6,13 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 67,9% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 214,0% Waterplane Area: 32 819 Square feet or 3 049 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 165% Structure weight / hull surface area: 152 lbs/sq ft or 743 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,47 - Longitudinal: 1,35 - Overall: 1,38 Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily Warning: mount cannot have below deck armour - Main Battery


von Echenbach: аи-версия развития авианосного строительства. Хосе, Рюдзе - 1921, 6500 т, 26 уз, 24 с, 8 76. Учебно-опытные, в качестве резервных. 4 типа Титосе, лг г-авКР - 1926, 6500 т, 28 уз, 18 гс, 3х2 127/33 универсальных аи - кормовая пирамида, 6х2 25. Бронирование: Б, П, Бш, Р -35 мм. Разведка и пло-пво при эскадрах. Отказ от Кага и Акаги. Сорю, Хирю - 1931, 9500 т, 31 уз, 66 с, 3х2 127/33 универсальных аи, 6х2 25. Бронирование: Б, П мо + полетная П, Бш, Р -35 мм. Боковые подъёмники. 8 типа аи Сёкаку - 1936, 14000 (9000) т, 31 (33) уз, 82 с, 4х2 127/33 универсальных аи, 8х2 25. Бронирование: Б, П мо + полетная П, Бш, Р -35 мм. Боковые подъёмники. Решетчатые подъёмные мачты, бортовые трубы. 4+4 типа улучшенный Секаку (Унрю). Отказ от П-Х в чистом виде ри, планирование генерального сражения у Филиппин - для активного включения в дело ЛК.

von Echenbach: аи-версия развития авианосного строительства. Хосе, Рюдзе - 1921, 6500 т, 26 уз, 24 с, 8 76. Учебно-опытные, в качестве резервных. 4 типа Титосе, лг г-авКР - 1926, 6500 т, 28 уз, 18 гс, 3х2 127/33 универсальных аи - кормовая пирамида, 6х2 25. Бронирование: Б, П, Бш, Р -35 мм. Разведка и пло-пво при эскадрах. Отказ от Кага и Акаги. Сорю, Хирю - 1931, 9500 т, 31 уз, 66 с, 3х2 127/33 универсальных аи, 6х2 25. Бронирование: Б, П мо + полетная П, Бш, Р -35 мм. Боковые подъёмники. 8 типа аи Сёкаку - 1936, 14000 (9000) т, 31 (33) уз, 82 с, 4х2 127/33 универсальных аи, 8х2 25. Бронирование: Б, П мо + полетная П, Бш, Р -35 мм. Боковые подъёмники. Решетчатые подъёмные мачты, бортовые трубы. 4+4 типа улучшенный Секаку (Унрю). Отказ от П-Х в чистом виде ри, планирование генерального сражения у Филиппин - для активного включения в дело ЛК.

von Echenbach: Японские дирижабли. Флота и армии. Не "цепеллинистые" гиганты, а гораздо более скромные, полужесткие - м.б. подобные патрульным американским. Возможно, что ГШ и конструктора в процессе развития процесса вновь попадут под влияние "гигантизма". Учебные: Ко-1, Ко-3 - 50-70 м, 2 мотора по 300 лс - 60-80 км/ч, 450 км рабочая дальность, 1 пулемет, радио, 3-2 тонны груза, 7-9 чел. Армия: Ко-ко-7, Ко-ко-9 - 80-100 м, 3 мотора по 450 лс - 70-90 км/ч, 600 км рабочая дальность, 2-4 пулемета, радио, 4-6 тонны груза, 7-9 чел. Флот: Ко-ко-ку-11, Ко-ко-ку-13 - 110-130 м, 3 мотора по 600 лс - 90 км/ч, 900 км рабочая дальность, 2-4 пулемета, радио, 4-8 тонны груза, 7-9 чел. Патруль, дозор и ПЛО (возможно носительство легкого гидросамолета с ГБ), доставка грузов, траление. По 4-6 ед. каждого типа.

von Echenbach: аи-"лёгкие" Ямато, 3 ед.: laid down 1936, Displacement: 36 005 t light; 38 845 t standard; 40 470 t normal; 41 771 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (788,86 ft / 761,15 ft) x 106,63 ft x (30,51 / 31,28 ft) (240,44 m / 232,00 m) x 32,50 m x (9,30 / 9,53 m) Armament: 9 - 18,11" / 460 mm 44,0 cal guns - 2 928,66lbs / 1 328,42kg shells, 120 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1936 Model 1 x 3-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 1 raised mount aft 36 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 53,17lbs / 24,12kg shells, 250 per gun Dual purpose guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1936 Model 12 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft 6 raised mounts - superfiring 6 x 2-gun mounts on sides, aft deck forward 32 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 0,48lbs / 0,22kg shells, 850 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1936 Model 16 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread 6 raised mounts Weight of broadside 28 288 lbs / 12 831 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 15,7" / 400 mm 410,11 ft / 125,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 295,28 ft / 90,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m 55,77 ft / 17,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 83% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 15,7" / 400 mm 4,72" / 120 mm 17,7" / 450 mm 2nd: 1,18" / 30 mm 0,39" / 10 mm 0,59" / 15 mm 3rd: 0,35" / 9 mm - - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 2,17" / 55 mm Forecastle: 0,98" / 25 mm Quarter deck: 1,38" / 35 mm - Conning towers: Forward 13,78" / 350 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 106 796 shp / 79 670 Kw = 28,00 kts Range 6 000nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 2 926 tons Complement: 1 426 - 1 854 Cost: £22,489 million / $89,957 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 5 422 tons, 13,4% - Guns: 5 422 tons, 13,4% Armour: 10 182 tons, 25,2% - Belts: 3 967 tons, 9,8% - Armament: 3 673 tons, 9,1% - Armour Deck: 2 193 tons, 5,4% - Conning Tower: 350 tons, 0,9% Machinery: 2 997 tons, 7,4% Hull, fittings & equipment: 17 404 tons, 43,0% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4 465 tons, 11,0% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 46 099 lbs / 20 910 Kg = 15,5 x 18,1 " / 460 mm shells or 3,9 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,07 Metacentric height 6,2 ft / 1,9 m Roll period: 17,9 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 54 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,99 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,07 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,572 / 0,576 Length to Beam Ratio: 7,14 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 29,93 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 22,00 degrees Stern overhang: 13,12 ft / 4,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 36,09 ft / 11,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Forward deck: 44,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Aft deck: 21,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Average freeboard: 20,72 ft / 6,32 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 82,9% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 156,6% Waterplane Area: 59 265 Square feet or 5 506 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 99% Structure weight / hull surface area: 250 lbs/sq ft or 1 222 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,96 - Longitudinal: 1,47 - Overall: 1,00 Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room 3х3 460/44 ретирадно. ПТЗ встроенное 4-6 м. В "эскадренный комплект" включены: 1 крейсер ПВО (он же - корабль управления, 20 120/45 универсальных, бронирование 15-30 мм, 6-9 ГС); 1 быстроходный авиатранспорт с 18 (24) ГС и 12 120/45; 4-6 быстроходных кораблей обеспечения (проект в разработке, 4000 т, 28 уз, 12 120/45, 15 мм защита, могут выставлять\выдвигать противоторпедный киль с общей "осадкой" в итоге до 10 м,...); 4-6 ЭМ. Подобной "линейной" эскадре придаются два отряда крейсеров (в каждом 3 ТКР, 2 ЛгКр, 1 КР ПВО и 6-9 ЭМ).

von Echenbach: Корабль обеспечения-аи: laid down 1937, Displacement: 2 969 t light; 3 161 t standard; 3 302 t normal; 3 414 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (466,10 ft / 452,76 ft) x 42,65 ft x (13,12 / 13,43 ft) (142,07 m / 138,00 m) x 13,00 m x (4,00 / 4,09 m) Armament: 12 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 53,17lbs / 24,12kg shells, 350 per gun Dual purpose guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1937 Model 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, forward deck forward 4 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 2 raised mounts 8 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm 55,0 cal guns - 0,51lbs / 0,23kg shells, 950 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1937 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 642 lbs / 291 kg Main Torpedoes 6 - 24,0" / 610 mm, 27,89 ft / 8,50 m torpedoes - 2,345 t each, 14,070 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted centre rotating tubes Main DC/AS Mortars 2 - 145,51 lbs / 66,00 kg Depth Charges + 18 reloads - 1,299 t total in Stern depth charge racks Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 0,79" / 20 mm 324,80 ft / 99,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Ends: 0,47" / 12 mm 68,90 ft / 21,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 59,06 ft / 18,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 110% of normal length Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,71" / 18 mm 0,35" / 9 mm 0,59" / 15 mm 2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - - - Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 0,47" / 12 mm - Conning towers: Forward 0,79" / 20 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 32 918 shp / 24 557 Kw = 30,00 kts Range 2 000nm at 15,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 253 tons Complement: 217 - 283 Cost: £1,599 million / $6,395 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 229 tons, 6,9% - Guns: 199 tons, 6,0% - Weapons: 30 tons, 0,9% Armour: 235 tons, 7,1% - Belts: 96 tons, 2,9% - Armament: 45 tons, 1,3% - Armour Deck: 91 tons, 2,8% - Conning Tower: 4 tons, 0,1% Machinery: 912 tons, 27,6% Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 292 tons, 39,1% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 333 tons, 10,1% Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 9,1% - Hull below water: 300 tons Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 3 086 lbs / 1 400 Kg = 58,5 x 4,7 " / 120 mm shells or 0,4 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,20 Metacentric height 1,9 ft / 0,6 m Roll period: 12,9 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,48 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,02 Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a normal bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,456 / 0,461 Length to Beam Ratio: 10,62 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 22,84 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 14,11 ft / 4,30 m - Aft deck: 35,00%, 14,11 ft / 4,30 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Average freeboard: 14,53 ft / 4,43 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 119,1% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 125,5% Waterplane Area: 12 668 Square feet or 1 177 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 112% Structure weight / hull surface area: 71 lbs/sq ft or 345 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,93 - Longitudinal: 1,28 - Overall: 0,96 Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Ещё желательно БЫ и быстроходный танкер (6-9 000 т, 22-24 уз, по 4 120 и 25-мм. защита 12-20мм + 6 ГС на верхней палубе и катапульта в носу). Понятно, что дорого, но при двух аи лёгких Ямато с универсальным составом эскорта и более сбалансированных ТКР можно предположить и отсутствие превышения финансирования. Старые ЛК и КР с начала 30-х в условный резерв "списанных и разоруженных". Какие предложения по АВ и ПЛ?

von Echenbach: Проект аи-Акаги и аи-Кага, в 1923 году заявлены как учебные авиатранспорты с мощностью турбин в 20 000 лс и скоростью 18 уз. 24 аэроплана. Имеют двухуровневый нижний ангар, лёгкая полётная палуба с носовой лёгкой (до 3-4т) катапультой (прикрыта открывающимся лац-портом). Соответственно выше: галерейная палуба предполетного обслуживания с тяжелой (до 5-8 т) катапультой и - верхняя полётная/операционная палуба с тяжелой катапультой. Для 33-34 гг -небольшая модернизация - установка\расконсервация машин и котлов (82 000 лс, 28 уз, 24 (12х2) 100-мм унив. АУ , 90 аэропланов. Возможно аи-развитие типа пикирующего бомбардировщика в аи-универсальный ИБ с 4-6 18-мм ККПМ и 2х150 + 2х50 или 1х 400 кг. laid down 1934, в строю с 1937, Displacement: 24 157 t light; 24 783 t standard; 26 028 t normal; 27 024 t full load с булями. Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (721,30 ft / 695,54 ft) x 78,74 ft (Bulges 98,43 ft) x (26,25 / 27,17 ft) (219,85 m / 212,00 m) x 24,00 m (Bulges 30,00 m) x (8,00 / 8,28 m) Armament: 24 - 3,94" / 100,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,77lbs / 13,96kg shells, 250 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model 8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, aft evenly spread 4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck forward 12 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm 55,0 cal guns - 0,51lbs / 0,23kg shells, 750 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model 12 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 745 lbs / 338 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 3,94" / 100 mm 196,85 ft / 60,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m Ends: 1,97" / 50 mm 393,70 ft / 120,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m 104,99 ft / 32,00 m Unarmoured ends Upper: 0,79" / 20 mm 524,93 ft / 160,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Main Belt covers 44% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) 2nd: 0,47" / 12 mm - - 3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 1,18" / 30 mm Forecastle: 0,71" / 18 mm Quarter deck: 0,94" / 24 mm - Conning towers: Forward 0,79" / 20 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 81 585 shp / 60 862 Kw = 28,00 kts Range 6 000nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 2 241 tons Complement: 1 023 - 1 331 Cost: £5,943 million / $23,771 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 144 tons, 0,6% - Guns: 144 tons, 0,6% Armour: 1 876 tons, 7,2% - Belts: 1 053 tons, 4,0% - Armament: 23 tons, 0,1% - Armour Deck: 784 tons, 3,0% - Conning Tower: 15 tons, 0,1% Machinery: 2 347 tons, 9,0% Hull, fittings & equipment: 18 170 tons, 69,8% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 871 tons, 7,2% Miscellaneous weights: 1 620 tons, 6,2% - Hull below water: 1 200 tons - Hull above water: 300 tons - On freeboard deck: 100 tons - Above deck: 20 tons Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 97 400 lbs / 44 180 Kg = 901,8 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 8,8 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,10 Metacentric height 4,2 ft / 1,3 m Roll period: 20,3 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,05 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2,00 Hull form characteristics: Hull has low quarterdeck , an extended bulbous bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,507 / 0,508 Length to Beam Ratio: 7,07 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 28,76 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 55,77 ft / 17,00 m, 42,65 ft / 13,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 42,65 ft / 13,00 m, 42,65 ft / 13,00 m - Aft deck: 35,00%, 42,65 ft / 13,00 m, 42,65 ft / 13,00 m - Quarter deck: 17,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Average freeboard: 40,25 ft / 12,27 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 38,6% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 298,7% Waterplane Area: 37 607 Square feet or 3 494 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 305% Structure weight / hull surface area: 216 lbs/sq ft or 1 056 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,51 - Longitudinal: 9,15 - Overall: 1,81 Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

von Echenbach: АИ-проект "классического" типа (+ влияние "Хиппера") аи-"Атаго": laid down 1929, Displacement: 9 885 t light; 10 428 t standard; 11 072 t normal; 11 587 t full load. Может принимать на корму краном гидросамолёт. Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (682,74 ft / 662,73 ft) x 59,06 ft x (19,69 / 20,36 ft) (208,10 m / 202,00 m) x 18,00 m x (6,00 / 6,21 m) Armament: 12 - 7,99" / 203 mm 48,0 cal guns - 267,33lbs / 121,26kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1929 Model 2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline, forward deck forward 1 raised mount - superfiring 2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount aft - superfiring 12 - 3,94" / 100,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,77lbs / 13,96kg shells, 250 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1929 Model 4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft 2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, aft deck forward 16 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm 55,0 cal guns - 0,51lbs / 0,23kg shells, 650 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1929 Model 4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft 4 raised mounts 4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, aft deck forward 4 raised mounts Weight of broadside 3 585 lbs / 1 626 kg Main Torpedoes 6 - 21,0" / 533 mm, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m torpedoes - 1,512 t each, 9,074 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 4,72" / 120 mm 472,44 ft / 144,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: 0,71" / 18 mm 150,92 ft / 46,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m 39,37 ft / 12,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 110% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,98" / 25 mm 0,71" / 18 mm 2,01" / 51 mm 2nd: 0,71" / 18 mm 0,24" / 6 mm - 3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 1,42" / 36 mm Forecastle: 0,87" / 22 mm Quarter deck: 1,02" / 26 mm - Conning towers: Forward 2,01" / 51 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 89 716 shp / 66 928 Kw = 33,00 kts Range 5 000nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 1 159 tons Complement: 539 - 701 Cost: £4,286 million / $17,144 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 1 051 tons, 9,5% - Guns: 1 033 tons, 9,3% - Weapons: 18 tons, 0,2% Armour: 1 838 tons, 16,6% - Belts: 933 tons, 8,4% - Armament: 213 tons, 1,9% - Armour Deck: 670 tons, 6,0% - Conning Tower: 21 tons, 0,2% Machinery: 2 755 tons, 24,9% Hull, fittings & equipment: 4 241 tons, 38,3% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 187 tons, 10,7% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 10 540 lbs / 4 781 Kg = 41,3 x 8,0 " / 203 mm shells or 1,2 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,07 Metacentric height 2,6 ft / 0,8 m Roll period: 15,4 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,95 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,01 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a straight bulbous bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,503 / 0,509 Length to Beam Ratio: 11,22 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 27,48 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19,00 degrees Stern overhang: 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 29,53 ft / 9,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Forward deck: 46,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Aft deck: 22,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Average freeboard: 18,26 ft / 5,57 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 109,5% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 163,0% Waterplane Area: 26 775 Square feet or 2 487 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105% Structure weight / hull surface area: 117 lbs/sq ft or 574 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,99 - Longitudinal: 1,09 - Overall: 1,00 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room

von Echenbach: Развитие "АИ-проект "классического" типа" от 30.10.22 - две пары 8" трёхорудийных башен в корме (подобие "Исе") и одна пара в носу. "Суперлидеры ЭМ". laid down 1933, Displacement: 10 406 t light; 11 103 t standard; 11 638 t normal; 12 067 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (727,76 ft / 702,10 ft) x 65,62 ft x (16,40 / 16,86 ft) (221,82 m / 214,00 m) x 20,00 m x (5,00 / 5,14 m) Armament: 18 - 7,99" / 203 mm 45,0 cal guns - 257,42lbs / 116,76kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1933 Model 2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline, forward deck forward 1 raised mount - superfiring 4 x 3-gun mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 2 raised mounts 12 - 3,94" / 100,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,77lbs / 13,96kg shells, 350 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model 6 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft 2 raised mounts - superfiring 24 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm 55,0 cal guns - 0,51lbs / 0,23kg shells, 850 per gun Machine guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model 12 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread 4 raised mounts Weight of broadside 5 015 lbs / 2 275 kg Main Torpedoes 6 - 21,0" / 533 mm, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m torpedoes - 1,528 t each, 9,170 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Main DC/AS Mortars 2 - 70,55 lbs / 32,00 kg Depth Charges + 8 reloads - 0,315 t total in Stern depth charge racks Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 3,54" / 90 mm 413,39 ft / 126,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: 0,71" / 18 mm 196,85 ft / 60,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m 91,86 ft / 28,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 91% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 1,18" / 30 mm 0,79" / 20 mm 2,36" / 60 mm 2nd: 0,47" / 12 mm 0,31" / 8 mm - 3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - - - Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 0,94" / 24 mm Forecastle: 0,71" / 18 mm Quarter deck: 0,87" / 22 mm - Conning towers: Forward 2,36" / 60 mm, Aft 0,59" / 15 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 64 973 shp / 48 469 Kw = 30,00 kts Range 4 000nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 964 tons Complement: 559 - 728 Cost: £5,120 million / $20,482 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 1 392 tons, 12,0% - Guns: 1 374 tons, 11,8% - Weapons: 19 tons, 0,2% Armour: 1 646 tons, 14,1% - Belts: 666 tons, 5,7% - Armament: 387 tons, 3,3% - Armour Deck: 559 tons, 4,8% - Conning Towers: 33 tons, 0,3% Machinery: 1 893 tons, 16,3% Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 475 tons, 47,0% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 232 tons, 10,6% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 18 284 lbs / 8 294 Kg = 71,6 x 8,0 " / 203 mm shells or 1,7 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,15 Metacentric height 3,4 ft / 1,0 m Roll period: 14,9 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 40 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,97 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,01 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,539 / 0,544 Length to Beam Ratio: 10,70 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 28,28 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 32 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 23,00 degrees Stern overhang: 13,12 ft / 4,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 29,53 ft / 9,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Forward deck: 42,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Aft deck: 26,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Average freeboard: 21,04 ft / 6,41 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 89,9% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 223,7% Waterplane Area: 32 602 Square feet or 3 029 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 119% Structure weight / hull surface area: 133 lbs/sq ft or 647 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,01 - Longitudinal: 1,14 - Overall: 1,02 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room



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