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von Echenbach: 2 аи генерация тяжелых крейсеров Японии М.б. у кого будут замечания или собственные предложения - разработки... Почему-то... подумалось... а давненько не брал я японские кораблики :-) Исе - недоавианосец. приличный дредноут. При ограничениях Вашингтоны (+-) японцы строят "легкие" крейсера с 6х3 6" (м.б. и 152 и/или 140 мм?) с возможностью перевооружения на 6х2 8"(203 мм). Архитектура - Исе. Турбины и дальность, броня - Могами или кого-либо из этой фаланги. И ЭМ-лидеры/суперэсминцы с 6х2 127мм, 3х4 ТА ЭМ ПВО - 6х2 100мм.
von Echenbach: Альт-Фурутака проект - 3х3 203, с 2х3 ГК в корме. + новые лгкр этой-же схемы +эм.
von Echenbach: альт Фурутака, альт Япон альт ТКР laid down 1926 Displacement: 7 397 t light; 7 812 t standard; 8 841 t normal; 9 664 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (553,87 ft / 534,78 ft) x 55,77 ft x (19,69 / 21,04 ft) (168,82 m / 163,00 m) x 17,00 m x (6,00 / 6,41 m) Armament: 9 - 7,99" / 203 mm 50,0 cal guns - 270,21lbs / 122,57kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1926 Model 1 x 3-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount aft - superfiring 8 - 3,94" / 100,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,77lbs / 13,96kg shells, 250 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1926 Model 4 x Twin mounts on sides, forward deck aft 8 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 0,48lbs / 0,22kg shells, 450 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1926 Model 4 x Twin mounts on sides, aft deck forward Weight of broadside 2 682 lbs / 1 217 kg Main Torpedoes 6 - 21,0" / 533 mm, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m torpedoes - 1,500 t each, 9,002 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Main DC/AS Mortars 2 - 152,12 lbs / 69,00 kg Depth Charges + 8 reloads - 0,679 t total in Stern depth charge racks Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 2,36" / 60 mm 393,70 ft / 120,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 160,76 ft / 49,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Main Belt covers 113% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 3,54" / 90 mm 1,18" / 30 mm 2,36" / 60 mm 2nd: 1,18" / 30 mm 0,59" / 15 mm 0,59" / 15 mm - Armoured deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 1,18" / 30 mm Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm - Conning towers: Forward 2,36" / 60 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 3 shafts, 71 692 shp / 53 482 Kw = 32,00 kts Range 6 600nm at 16,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 1 851 tons Complement: 455 - 592 Cost: £2,922 million / $11,689 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 816 tons, 9,2% - Guns: 797 tons, 9,0% - Weapons: 19 tons, 0,2% Armour: 1 148 tons, 13,0% - Belts: 440 tons, 5,0% - Armament: 219 tons, 2,5% - Armour Deck: 467 tons, 5,3% - Conning Tower: 22 tons, 0,2% Machinery: 2 295 tons, 26,0% Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 138 tons, 35,5% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 443 tons, 16,3% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 8 180 lbs / 3 710 Kg = 32,0 x 8,0 " / 203 mm shells or 1,1 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,10 Metacentric height 2,5 ft / 0,8 m Roll period: 14,9 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 52 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,95 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,05 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a straight bulbous bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,527 / 0,539 Length to Beam Ratio: 9,59 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 26,40 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 23,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 29,53 ft / 9,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Forward deck: 36,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Aft deck: 32,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Average freeboard: 20,42 ft / 6,22 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 112,2% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 172,1% Waterplane Area: 21 200 Square feet or 1 970 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107% Structure weight / hull surface area: 103 lbs/sq ft or 502 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,87 - Longitudinal: 1,89 - Overall: 0,94 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Dampir: von Echenbach пишет: альт Фурутака, альт Япон альт ТКР laid down 1926 При метацентрической высоте м 0.85 диапазон остойчивости равен 75°, что меньше требований предъявленных японским флотом к проекту крейсера типа «Фурутака» метацентрической высоте м. 1,0 и остойчивости 80°
von Echenbach: По совету ув. Dampir'a - булевые добавленмя + дальность офцл - 19000 нм с офц 3х2 8 (6дм) дм. ??? Перск. 3х4 ГК ??? тема обсужденя. Клава барахлт, i выпадает.
Пан директор: Не совсем в тему, но не пропадать же добру
Пан директор: Kangaroo, Malaya Coastal Defence Ship laid down 1923 Displacement: 8 609 t light; 8 971 t standard; 9 800 t normal; 10 463 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (534,78 ft / 529,86 ft) x 63,98 ft x (20,01 / 21,04 ft) (163,00 m / 161,50 m) x 19,50 m x (6,10 / 6,41 m) Armament: 8 - 7,99" / 203 mm 50,0 cal guns - 270,22lbs / 122,57kg shells, 120 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1923 Model 2 x 4-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread 4 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 32,65lbs / 14,81kg shells, 300 per gun Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1923 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread Weight of broadside 2 292 lbs / 1 040 kg Main Torpedoes 2 - 21,0" / 533 mm, 21,33 ft / 6,50 m torpedoes - 1,391 t each, 2,783 t total In 3 sets of deck mounted centre rotating tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 7,00" / 178 mm 324,80 ft / 99,00 m 12,14 ft / 3,70 m Ends: 2,50" / 64 mm 209,97 ft / 64,00 m 12,14 ft / 3,70 m Main Belt covers 94% of normal length - Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads: 2,00" / 51 mm 324,80 ft / 99,00 m 16,77 ft / 5,11 m Beam between torpedo bulkheads 41,01 ft / 12,50 m - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 7,00" / 178 mm 3,15" / 80 mm 7,00" / 178 mm 2nd: 0,98" / 25 mm 0,39" / 10 mm 0,98" / 25 mm - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 3,00" / 76 mm Forecastle: 1,00" / 25 mm Quarter deck: 1,00" / 25 mm - Conning towers: Forward 7,00" / 178 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 3 shafts, 33 496 shp / 24 988 Kw = 25,00 kts Range 6 000nm at 15,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 1 492 tons Complement: 492 - 640 Cost: £2,006 million / $8,025 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 703 tons, 7,2% - Guns: 697 tons, 7,1% - Weapons: 6 tons, 0,1% Armour: 3 283 tons, 33,5% - Belts: 1 404 tons, 14,3% - Torpedo bulkhead: 403 tons, 4,1% - Armament: 413 tons, 4,2% - Armour Deck: 994 tons, 10,1% - Conning Tower: 69 tons, 0,7% Machinery: 1 120 tons, 11,4% Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 321 tons, 33,9% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 191 tons, 12,1% Miscellaneous weights: 183 tons, 1,9% - Hull below water: 20 tons - Hull above water: 63 tons - Above deck: 100 tons Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 19 350 lbs / 8 777 Kg = 75,8 x 8,0 " / 203 mm shells or 3,7 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,22 Metacentric height 3,7 ft / 1,1 m Roll period: 14,0 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 63 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,40 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,34 Hull form characteristics: Hull has low forecastle, low quarterdeck , a normal bow and a cruiser stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,506 / 0,514 Length to Beam Ratio: 8,28 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 23,02 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 47 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 11,00 degrees Stern overhang: 0,66 ft / 0,20 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 31,20%, 21,95 ft / 6,69 m, 17,49 ft / 5,33 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 17,55 ft / 5,35 m, 17,49 ft / 5,33 m - Aft deck: 18,40%, 17,49 ft / 5,33 m, 17,49 ft / 5,33 m - Quarter deck: 20,40%, 12,24 ft / 3,73 m, 12,24 ft / 3,73 m - Average freeboard: 16,98 ft / 5,18 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 94,3% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 126,1% Waterplane Area: 22 701 Square feet or 2 109 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 124% Structure weight / hull surface area: 110 lbs/sq ft or 540 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,97 - Longitudinal: 1,32 - Overall: 1,00 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily Warning: mount cannot have below deck armour - 2nd Battery
Пан директор: Фишка корабля в том что он полноценно влазит в Вашингтонский Стандарт - не более 10000 тонн стандартного водоизмещения и не более 203-мм пушки главного калибра. Мы еще к этому кораблю как вариант рассматривали три вида башен главного калибра: 3x3x190 mm, 3x2x234-254 mm 3x1x305-356 mm с короткими стволами
von Echenbach: Пан директор пишет: Kangaroo, Malaya Coastal Defence Ship Доминион англии? или совсем аи страна-мир? Пан директор пишет: Фишка корабля в том что он полноценно влазит в Вашингтонский Стандарт - не более 10000 тонн стандартного водоизмещения и не более 203-мм пушки главного калибра. ББО в ответ на проекты Сиама? ТКР? Значение и влияние Вашингтонского договора на Малайю?
von Echenbach: Был ещё проект испанского дредноута с 2 башнями х3 нлс-корма и по миделю 1з2 12". Сходен с австрийским проектом т-Лн кр. с 3х2 12". Рис на цусиме встречал. Может быть применен японцами для т-лн кр с 3х3 ГК.
von Echenbach: Австро-Венгерский проект (почти заказанный :-)) Какая связь с ТКР ЯИФ? Допускаем: под влиянием "модернизации" - перевооружения Могами и пр. однотипных, в Японии немного ранее, в 1932-34 г, задумались о повышении возможностей артиллерии ТКР. С большими спорами и попытками мятежей против ГМШ (вот причина волнений в Токио-аи) приняли более тяжелое орудие, в 10 дюймов (254-мм)/48 с учетом влияния и разработок английских 9,2", австро-венгерских, германских и французских 240-мм и 280-мм и 254-мм. АИ орудие 254/45 модель год 3, тип 2: Скорострельность - 4 выстрела в мин (техническая - 6-7), вес ствола - 24-26 т, вес снаряда 275 кг) против "исторической" 8" (50 caliber 3rd Year Type 20 cm Gun 2 GÔ (No. 2) Actual Size 20.3 cm (8.0"), 203/50, ствол - 19 т, снаряд - 125,85 кг, 4 в/мин) Основание, весьма спорное: подавление крейсеров всех типов на дальних дистанциях (палубы и борта с недостаточным бронированием) и возможность решить исход столкновения с легкими силами в условиях плохой видимости на малых дистанциях 1-2 попаданиями. Перегрузка вышла на всех крейсерах до 1 000 т, снижение скорости на 1,5-2 уз. Перевооружение началось на фоне отмены Лондонского и Вашингтонского соглашений. Дополнительно были установлены узкие були. Не перевооружались крейсера типа Аоба (4 ед, малые размеры) и Тоне (2, как эскадренные авиа-КР). Крейсера также получили по одной артиллерийской (кормовая) и обзорной (носовая) радарным системам на основе немецких.разработок. Форма носовой надстройки-мостика максимально уменьшена.
von Echenbach: аи Могами 10 дм, аи Япония аи СвТкр - ЛгЛн яп Ткр laid down 1937 Displacement: 12 182 t light; 12 879 t standard; 13 805 t normal; 14 545 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (662,14 ft / 643,04 ft) x 68,90 ft x (19,69 / 20,49 ft) (201,82 m / 196,00 m) x 21,00 m x (6,00 / 6,24 m) Armament: 10 - 10,00" / 254 mm 48,0 cal guns - 523,67lbs / 237,53kg shells, 110 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1937 Model 3 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, forward deck forward 1 raised mount - superfiring 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount aft - superfiring 12 - 5,00" / 127 mm 40,0 cal guns - 59,90lbs / 27,17kg shells, 250 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1937 Model 4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, aft deck forward 2 raised mounts - superfiring 2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft 8 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 0,48lbs / 0,22kg shells, 650 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1937 Model 2 x Twin mounts on sides, forward deck centre 2 x Twin mounts on sides, aft deck centre Weight of broadside 5 959 lbs / 2 703 kg Main Torpedoes 8 - 24,0" / 610 mm, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m torpedoes - 2,218 t each, 17,746 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 5,51" / 140 mm 400,26 ft / 122,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m Ends: 0,98" / 25 mm 229,66 ft / 70,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 96% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,98" / 25 mm 0,98" / 25 mm 1,97" / 50 mm 2nd: 0,47" / 12 mm - 0,47" / 12 mm 3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 2,36" / 60 mm Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm - Conning towers: Forward 3,94" / 100 mm, Aft 0,98" / 25 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 90 137 shp / 67 242 Kw = 32,00 kts Range 6 600nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 1 666 tons Complement: 636 - 827 Cost: £7,250 million / $29,000 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 1 693 tons, 12,3% - Guns: 1 670 tons, 12,1% - Weapons: 22 tons, 0,2% Armour: 2 998 tons, 21,7% - Belts: 1 323 tons, 9,6% - Armament: 323 tons, 2,3% - Armour Deck: 1 291 tons, 9,4% - Conning Towers: 61 tons, 0,4% Machinery: 2 498 tons, 18,1% Hull, fittings & equipment: 4 993 tons, 36,2% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 623 tons, 11,8% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 17 305 lbs / 7 850 Kg = 34,6 x 10,0 " / 254 mm shells or 1,1 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,12 Metacentric height 3,6 ft / 1,1 m Roll period: 15,3 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,99 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,05 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,554 / 0,561 Length to Beam Ratio: 9,33 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 28,92 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 47 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 23,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 29,53 ft / 9,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Aft deck: 35,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Average freeboard: 21,85 ft / 6,66 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 95,6% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 202,5% Waterplane Area: 32 314 Square feet or 3 002 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 104% Structure weight / hull surface area: 126 lbs/sq ft or 617 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,90 - Longitudinal: 1,35 - Overall: 0,94 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room
von Echenbach: Незаслуженно обделённые аи-вниманием американские ТКР: барбеты и легкие щиты вместо башен. 12 (4х3) 203/55 и 16 (8х2) 127/35, 32 уз, борт 102, палуба 64. и пр. laid down 1928 Barbette ship Displacement: 9 858 t light; 10 602 t standard; 11 552 t normal; 12 311 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (604,00 ft / 587,27 ft) x 65,62 ft x (19,69 / 20,65 ft) (184,10 m / 179,00 m) x 20,00 m x (6,00 / 6,29 m) Armament: 12 - 7,99" / 203 mm 55,0 cal guns - 275,51lbs / 124,97kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in open barbette mounts, 1928 Model 2 x Triple mounts on centreline, forward deck forward 1 raised mount 2 x Triple mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount aft 16 - 5,00" / 127 mm 35,0 cal guns - 58,60lbs / 26,58kg shells, 450 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1928 Model 4 x Twin mounts on sides, forward deck aft 2 raised mounts - superfiring 4 x Twin mounts on sides, aft deck forward 2 raised mounts - superfiring 8 - 1,10" / 28,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 0,68lbs / 0,31kg shells, 950 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1928 Model 4 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread Weight of broadside 4 249 lbs / 1 927 kg Main Torpedoes 6 - 21,0" / 533 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 1,315 t each, 7,887 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Main DC/AS Mortars 2 - 99,21 lbs / 45,00 kg Depth Charges + 8 reloads - 0,443 t total in Stern depth charge racks Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 4,02" / 102 mm 377,30 ft / 115,00 m 10,83 ft / 3,30 m Ends: 2,44" / 62 mm 147,64 ft / 45,00 m 16,40 ft / 5,00 m 62,34 ft / 19,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 99% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: - 1,57" / 40 mm 3,15" / 80 mm 2nd: 0,79" / 20 mm 0,47" / 12 mm - 3rd: 0,35" / 9 mm - - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 2,52" / 64 mm Forecastle: 1,42" / 36 mm Quarter deck: 1,42" / 36 mm - Conning towers: Forward 1,26" / 32 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 82 396 shp / 61 468 Kw = 32,00 kts Range 7 000nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 1 709 tons Complement: 556 - 724 Cost: £3,836 million / $15,344 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 1 008 tons, 8,7% - Guns: 992 tons, 8,6% - Weapons: 16 tons, 0,1% Armour: 2 631 tons, 22,8% - Belts: 904 tons, 7,8% - Armament: 523 tons, 4,5% - Armour Deck: 1 189 tons, 10,3% - Conning Tower: 14 tons, 0,1% Machinery: 2 565 tons, 22,2% Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 654 tons, 31,6% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 693 tons, 14,7% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 13 930 lbs / 6 318 Kg = 54,6 x 8,0 " / 203 mm shells or 1,7 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,25 Metacentric height 4,0 ft / 1,2 m Roll period: 13,8 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,56 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,03 Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,533 / 0,541 Length to Beam Ratio: 8,95 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 27,79 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 29,53 ft / 9,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 21,65 ft / 6,60 m - Aft deck: 35,00%, 21,65 ft / 6,60 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Average freeboard: 21,18 ft / 6,46 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 98,8% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 191,1% Waterplane Area: 27 546 Square feet or 2 559 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 109% Structure weight / hull surface area: 104 lbs/sq ft or 506 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,85 - Longitudinal: 1,32 - Overall: 0,89 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room
von Echenbach: "Скромные" приготовления к возможным инцидентам. Официально - быстроходные ремонтно-десантные базы. В "угрожающий период" устанавливаются башни и бортовая броня. Фактически - малый (экономный) линейный крейсер (2 класса). Возможно строительство ещё трех корпусов с возможностью переоборудования в авианосцы. А если денег из сокровищницы не хватит, то из трех построенных, два можно направить на переделку в авианосцы. Киото, Осака, Сасебо - аи Япония, laid down 1932 Displacement: 16 493 t light; 17 656 t standard; 18 494 t normal; 19 164 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (677,35 ft / 659,45 ft) x 77,43 ft x (22,97 / 23,60 ft) (206,45 m / 201,00 m) x 23,60 m x (7,00 / 7,19 m) Armament: 6 - 14,02" / 356 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1 388,37lbs / 629,75kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1932 Model 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount aft - superfiring 8 - 5,00" / 127 mm 45,0 cal guns - 63,03lbs / 28,59kg shells, 350 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model 2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft 2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, aft deck forward 8 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 0,48lbs / 0,22kg shells, 650 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread Weight of broadside 8 838 lbs / 4 009 kg Main Torpedoes 6 - 21,0" / 533 mm, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m torpedoes - 1,524 t each, 9,146 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 4,72" / 120 mm 360,89 ft / 110,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: 1,57" / 40 mm 262,47 ft / 80,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m 36,09 ft / 11,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 84% of normal length Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 6,30" / 160 mm 1,57" / 40 mm 4,72" / 120 mm 2nd: 0,79" / 20 mm - - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 1,89" / 48 mm (м.б. до 72 мм) Forecastle: 0,94" / 24 mm Quarter deck: 0,94" / 24 mm - Conning towers: Forward 3,15" / 80 mm, Aft 0,79" / 20 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 83 216 shp / 62 079 Kw = 30,00 kts Range 4 600nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 1 508 tons Complement: 792 - 1 030 Cost: £7,829 million / $31,315 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 1 845 tons, 10,0% - Guns: 1 827 tons, 9,9% - Weapons: 18 tons, 0,1% Armour: 2 784 tons, 15,1% - Belts: 929 tons, 5,0% - Armament: 598 tons, 3,2% - Armour Deck: 1 198 tons, 6,5% - Conning Towers: 59 tons, 0,3% Machinery: 2 456 tons, 13,3% Hull, fittings & equipment: 9 407 tons, 50,9% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 001 tons, 10,8% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 25 447 lbs / 11 542 Kg = 18,5 x 14,0 " / 356 mm shells or 2,2 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,11 Metacentric height 4,1 ft / 1,3 m Roll period: 16,0 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 55 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,99 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,10 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,552 / 0,557 Length to Beam Ratio: 8,52 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 29,51 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 21,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 19,00%, 29,53 ft / 9,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Forward deck: 46,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Aft deck: 21,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Average freeboard: 21,40 ft / 6,52 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 84,2% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 184,3% Waterplane Area: 37 170 Square feet or 3 453 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 121% Structure weight / hull surface area: 193 lbs/sq ft or 942 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,15 - Longitudinal: 1,84 - Overall: 1,21 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room
von Echenbach: Ещё одна аи возможность для аи-Японии немного изменить характеристики КР: Допустим изменения с 1926-27 при небольшом изменении концепции операции-боя и комплектации флота. Переход на трёхорудийные башни с серии Такао (по три корабля): Такао 3х3 (м.б. ретирадное - по типу ЭМ); Могами 4х3 (могла произойти история с 155-мм артиллерией и даже могли появиться четырёхорудийные башни 155-мм ГК ); Тоне 5-6х3. Для обеспечения крейсерам и АВ ввели в классификацию класс "легкие разведывательные крейсера"/ или быстроходные ТР снабжения с официальными данными в 4-5 000 т, 24-26 уз, 4-6 76 мм, 3-5 гидросамолётов (фактически - 5000 т, 32 уз, 8х1 127, бронирование б-51\п-51, катапульту и 12-18 гидросамолётов. Ставить бронированный ангар - ? Миниавианосец -?)
von Echenbach: Немного раньше происходит "извив ри" в аи - с 1907. Под влиянием идей Италии и А-В появляется интерес к трёхорудийным башням и от англичанов - к турбинам. Аи изменяются проекты Цукубы и Икомы, собственно ДР-ЛК пока несколько заторможены постройкой в ожидании результатов. Обосновано тактическое преимущество ретирадного размещения башен ГК при схемах 3х2 или 3х3 для КР, от лёгких до линейных. аи Цукуба - laid down 1908 Displacement: 12 142 t light; 12 821 t standard; 14 048 t normal; 15 030 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (488,26 ft / 465,88 ft) x 68,90 ft x (22,97 / 37,41 ft) (148,82 m / 142,00 m) x 21,00 m x (7,00 / 11,40 m) Armament: 6 - 12,01" / 305 mm 45,0 cal guns - 873,08lbs / 396,02kg shells, 110 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1908 Model 1 x 3-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 1 x 3-gun mount on centreline, aft deck aft 12 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 53,17lbs / 24,12kg shells, 220 per gun Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1908 Model 12 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft 6 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas Weight of broadside 5 877 lbs / 2 666 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 21,0" / 533 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 1,235 t each, 4,938 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 6,30" / 160 mm 272,31 ft / 83,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: 1,57" / 40 mm 121,39 ft / 37,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m 72,18 ft / 22,00 m Unarmoured ends Upper: 3,15" / 80 mm 272,31 ft / 83,00 m 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Main Belt covers 90% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 6,30" / 160 mm 3,15" / 80 mm 7,09" / 180 mm 2nd: 1,57" / 40 mm 0,79" / 20 mm - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 2,01" / 51 mm Forecastle: 0,98" / 25 mm Quarter deck: 0,98" / 25 mm - Conning towers: Forward 4,72" / 120 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 3 shafts, 40 838 shp / 30 465 Kw = 24,00 kts Range 4 800nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 2 208 tons Complement: 644 - 838 Cost: £1,233 million / $4,933 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 1 252 tons, 8,9% - Guns: 1 242 tons, 8,8% - Weapons: 10 tons, 0,1% Armour: 2 635 tons, 18,8% - Belts: 1 099 tons, 7,8% - Armament: 625 tons, 4,4% - Armour Deck: 851 tons, 6,1% - Conning Tower: 59 tons, 0,4% Machinery: 2 063 tons, 14,7% Hull, fittings & equipment: 6 193 tons, 44,1% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 906 tons, 13,6% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 19 076 lbs / 8 653 Kg = 22,0 x 12,0 " / 305 mm shells or 2,4 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,18 Metacentric height 3,9 ft / 1,2 m Roll period: 14,7 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 62 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,86 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,23 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a straight bulbous bow and a cruiser stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,667 / 0,438 Length to Beam Ratio: 6,76 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 21,58 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 23,00 degrees Stern overhang: 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 29,53 ft / 9,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Forward deck: 44,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Aft deck: 23,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Average freeboard: 21,19 ft / 6,46 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 82,0% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 150,8% Waterplane Area: 24 974 Square feet or 2 320 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 120% Structure weight / hull surface area: 181 lbs/sq ft or 884 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,24 - Longitudinal: 3,28 - Overall: 1,37 Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily аи -новаторский корабль для аи Японии, особенно по времени внедрения новых технологий. Далее: Ибуки и пара ДР строится с 3х3 12" как ЛнКР (быстроходные ЛК). Фусо 4х3 14", Муцу с 4х3 16". Конго - 3х3 14".
von Echenbach: аи-крейсер из "Тайна двух океанов" Г. Адамов, текст 1938 "великолепный "Идзумо" -- пятнадцатитысячетонный красавец крейсер, последнее слово военного судостроения, с тремя мощными боевыми башнями, двенадцатью тяжелыми, трехсотсорокамиллиметровыми орудиями, дальностью боя в тридцать два километра, шестью торпедными аппаратами, четырьмя самолетами и скоростью хода в пятьдесят узлов." Т.е. : 3х4 (французы), торпеды (в романе - магнитные, но - ОЧЕНЬ мощные), скорость - ? В версии шарпия: laid down 1937, Displacement: 15 991 t light; 17 137 t standard; 17 849 t normal; 18 419 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (630,30 ft / 593,83 ft) x 85,30 ft x (22,97 / 23,51 ft) (192,11 m / 181,00 m) x 26,00 m x (7,00 / 7,17 m) Armament: 12 - 13,39" / 340 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1 209,46lbs / 548,60kg shells, 90 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1937 Model 1 x 4-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 4-gun mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount aft - superfiring 12 - 5,00" / 127 mm 45,0 cal guns - 63,03lbs / 28,59kg shells, 150 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1937 Model 6 x Twin mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 15 270 lbs / 6 926 kg Main Torpedoes 8 - 24,4" / 620 mm, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m torpedoes - 2,285 t each, 18,282 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 7,01" / 178 mm 446,19 ft / 136,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Ends: 0,71" / 18 mm 144,36 ft / 44,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Unarmoured ends Upper: 2,01" / 51 mm 446,19 ft / 136,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Main Belt covers 116% of normal length Main Belt inclined 19,00 degrees (positive = in) - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 7,87" / 200 mm 3,94" / 100 mm 5,91" / 150 mm 2nd: 0,47" / 12 mm 0,31" / 8 mm - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 2,52" / 64 mm Forecastle: 0,71" / 18 mm Quarter deck: 1,26" / 32 mm - Conning towers: Forward 7,01" / 178 mm, Aft 0,98" / 25 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 84 241 shp / 62 844 Kw = 30,00 kts Range 4 000nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 1 282 tons Complement: 771 - 1 003 Cost: £12,417 million / $49,667 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 3 217 tons, 18,0% - Guns: 3 181 tons, 17,8% - Weapons: 37 tons, 0,2% Armour: 4 327 tons, 24,2% - Belts: 1 428 tons, 8,0% - Armament: 1 265 tons, 7,1% - Armour Deck: 1 516 tons, 8,5% - Conning Towers: 118 tons, 0,7% Machinery: 2 335 tons, 13,1% Hull, fittings & equipment: 6 112 tons, 34,2% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 858 tons, 10,4% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 12 155 lbs / 5 513 Kg = 10,1 x 13,4 " / 340 mm shells or 1,1 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,06 Metacentric height 4,4 ft / 1,3 m Roll period: 17,1 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 53 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 1,54 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,04 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a straight bulbous bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,537 / 0,541 Length to Beam Ratio: 6,96 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 28,54 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 51 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 27,00 degrees Stern overhang: 16,40 ft / 5,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m - Forward deck: 46,00%, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m - Aft deck: 19,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Average freeboard: 25,07 ft / 7,64 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 111,7% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 214,0% Waterplane Area: 36 349 Square feet or 3 377 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 80% Structure weight / hull surface area: 147 lbs/sq ft or 717 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,62 - Longitudinal: 1,79 - Overall: 0,68 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Пан директор: von Echenbach пишет: аи-крейсер из "Тайна двух океанов" Г. Адамов, текст 1938 "великолепный "Идзумо" -- пятнадцатитысячетонный красавец крейсер, последнее слово военного судостроения, с тремя мощными боевыми башнями, двенадцатью тяжелыми, трехсотсорокамиллиметровыми орудиями, дальностью боя в тридцать два километра, шестью торпедными аппаратами, четырьмя самолетами и скоростью хода в пятьдесят узлов." Точно! Если мы примем что 340-мм это опечатка, а в реальности 240-мм, 50 узлов имеются ввиду не морские мили (1852 метра) а сухопутные в 1609 метров, т.е. 50 узлов это 43,5 узла, а 15 тысяч тонн там официальные а в реальности там тонн 17-18 тысяч, то у нас получится вполне нормальный тяжелый крейсер Позднего Дизельпанка. Силовую берем с Высокими Параметрами Пара (80-90 атмосфер) - уровня американских, стоявших на Форестах Шерманах но мощностью 200-250 тысяч лошадей на 4 вала. Башни ГК - 4-х орудийные, а второй калибр - 8х2х100-мм. Влезут без проблем и 6 600-мм торпедных аппаратов и 4 самолёта.
Пан директор: "Пионер" кстати тоже можно рассмотреть, но нужно принять во внимание что над автором, когда он пытался раскрывать военные секреты, стоял чекист с Маузером и громко клацал затвором при попытке рассказать про что-то интересное. Поэтому атомный реактор с электродвижением условно не показали и заменили какой-то фигней с кабелями вырабатывающими ток из-за перепада температуры, подводные торпеды типа Шквал - ультразвуком (что бы оправдать грохот при стрельбе). Скажем спасибо, что оставили хотя бы надводные многоразовые беспилотники, а про глубоководный водолазный комплекс с автономными подводными боевыми скафандрами вообще рассказали вскользь как будто так и надо.
von Echenbach: Давным-давно, при взгляде на ТКР типа "Миоко" и другие, появлялась мысль -как сделать лучше. Не в политическом плане, а исходя их представлений о корабельной гармонии... И вот появилось предложение: а давайте уберём, в общем-то бесполезные самолёты (для них построим очень лёгкие быстроходные крейсера ПВО или танкеры (можно тоже ПВО ;-)) с возможностью базирования гидросамолетов и/или часть самолётов запускать с помощью катапульты) и торпедные аппараты. Да, это пересмотр тактических подходов - но мы можем предложить " усиление лёгких сил и однообразный силуэт" путём добавления шестой башни на корму, т.е. формируем две "пирамиды", 8х2 8". Появляются следующие линии: Фурутака-оригинал (6х1 8"), аи-Миоко и др. (6х2 8"), аи-Юбари (6х1 6", 6х3 ТА /на борт 3), аи-Агано (6х2 /или 6х3, и какой ответ будут делать англы с американами?/ 6", 4х3 ТА/на борт 2), большие ЭМ - ? ваши предложения, коллеги... /м.б. - 6х1 120 универсальных и 3х3-4 ТА по центральной линии?/ аи-Миоко: laid down 1933, Displacement: 9 488 t light; 9 989 t standard; 10 612 t normal; 11 111 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (655,58 ft / 633,20 ft) x 68,90 ft x (16,40 / 16,98 ft) (199,82 m / 193,00 m) x 21,00 m x (5,00 / 5,18 m) Armament: 12 - 7,99" / 203 mm 45,0 cal guns - 257,42lbs / 116,76kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1933 Model 3 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, forward deck forward 1 raised mount - superfiring 3 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount aft - superfiring 16 - 2,99" / 76,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,51lbs / 6,13kg shells, 250 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model 4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft 2 raised mounts - superfiring 4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, aft deck forward 2 raised mounts - superfiring 12 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm 55,0 cal guns - 0,51lbs / 0,23kg shells, 450 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model 12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread 8 raised mounts Weight of broadside 3 311 lbs / 1 502 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 3,78" / 96 mm 377,30 ft / 115,00 m 11,81 ft / 3,60 m Ends: 0,71" / 18 mm 180,45 ft / 55,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m 75,46 ft / 23,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 92% of normal length Main Belt inclined 17,00 degrees (positive = in) - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 2,52" / 64 mm 1,26" / 32 mm 3,78" / 96 mm 2nd: 0,47" / 12 mm 0,24" / 6 mm - 3rd: 0,20" / 5 mm - - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 1,42" / 36 mm Forecastle: 0,71" / 18 mm Quarter deck: 1,26" / 32 mm - Conning towers: Forward 3,78" / 96 mm, Aft 1,42" / 36 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 71 887 shp / 53 627 Kw = 31,00 kts Range 6 000nm at 13,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 1 122 tons Complement: 522 - 679 Cost: £4,380 million / $17,521 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 912 tons, 8,6% - Guns: 912 tons, 8,6% Armour: 2 088 tons, 19,7% - Belts: 772 tons, 7,3% - Armament: 499 tons, 4,7% - Armour Deck: 764 tons, 7,2% - Conning Towers: 54 tons, 0,5% Machinery: 2 095 tons, 19,7% Hull, fittings & equipment: 4 393 tons, 41,4% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 124 tons, 10,6% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 15 663 lbs / 7 105 Kg = 61,4 x 8,0 " / 203 mm shells or 2,0 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,16 Metacentric height 3,7 ft / 1,1 m Roll period: 14,9 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 53 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,56 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,06 Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a straight bulbous bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,519 / 0,525 Length to Beam Ratio: 9,19 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 27,07 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 23,00 degrees Stern overhang: 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 29,53 ft / 9,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Aft deck: 39,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Quarter deck: 13,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Average freeboard: 20,61 ft / 6,28 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 91,0% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 217,6% Waterplane Area: 30 295 Square feet or 2 815 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 116% Structure weight / hull surface area: 115 lbs/sq ft or 559 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,94 - Longitudinal: 1,13 - Overall: 0,96 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room + а)4х3, б) 2х2 14"/45...
von Echenbach: аи-Юбари: laid down 1926, Displacement: 3 721 t light; 3 873 t standard; 4 133 t normal; 4 341 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (416,99 ft / 396,98 ft) x 42,65 ft x (15,26 / 15,84 ft) (127,10 m / 121,00 m) x 13,00 m x (4,65 / 4,83 m) Armament: 6 - 5,98" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,07lbs / 49,02kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1926 Model 3 x Single mounts on centreline, forward deck forward 1 raised mount - superfiring 3 x Single mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount aft - superfiring 8 - 2,99" / 76,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,51lbs / 6,13kg shells, 250 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1926 Model 2 x Twin mounts on sides, forward deck aft 2 x Twin mounts on sides, aft deck forward Weight of broadside 756 lbs / 343 kg Main Torpedoes 18 - 21,0" / 533 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 1,307 t each, 23,517 t total In 6 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Main DC/AS Mortars 2 - 97,00 lbs / 44,00 kg Depth Charges + 8 reloads - 0,433 t total in Stern depth charge racks Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 0,98" / 25 mm 334,65 ft / 102,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: 0,71" / 18 mm 59,06 ft / 18,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 130% of normal length Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,71" / 18 mm 0,47" / 12 mm 0,71" / 18 mm 2nd: 0,35" / 9 mm 0,24" / 6 mm - - Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 0,98" / 25 mm Forecastle: 0,47" / 12 mm Quarter deck: 0,71" / 18 mm - Conning towers: Forward 0,98" / 25 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 45 670 shp / 34 070 Kw = 31,00 kts Range 4 000nm at 13,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 468 tons Complement: 257 - 335 Cost: £1,387 million / $5,549 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 251 tons, 6,1% - Guns: 203 tons, 4,9% - Weapons: 48 tons, 1,2% Armour: 418 tons, 10,1% - Belts: 145 tons, 3,5% - Armament: 56 tons, 1,3% - Armour Deck: 213 tons, 5,1% - Conning Tower: 5 tons, 0,1% Machinery: 1 462 tons, 35,4% Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 591 tons, 38,5% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 412 tons, 10,0% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 3 290 lbs / 1 492 Kg = 30,7 x 6,0 " / 152 mm shells or 0,7 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,12 Metacentric height 1,7 ft / 0,5 m Roll period: 13,6 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 54 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,67 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,09 Hull form characteristics: Hull has raised forecastle, rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,560 / 0,566 Length to Beam Ratio: 9,31 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 22,71 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 67 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 49 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19,00 degrees Stern overhang: 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 19,00%, 29,53 ft / 9,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Aft deck: 37,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Average freeboard: 19,36 ft / 5,90 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 129,9% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 159,3% Waterplane Area: 12 421 Square feet or 1 154 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 104% Structure weight / hull surface area: 72 lbs/sq ft or 353 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,87 - Longitudinal: 3,49 - Overall: 1,00 Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room 6х1 в схеме начального "Фурутака" с 6х1 6", 4х2 3" и 6х3 та. На испытаниях показал 33 уз 3 часа. 6 ед. В 1937 3 ед. перевооружены на 12 (6х2) + 12 (6х2) 127/120 универс. аи или 100 с сохранением 2х3 та. - крейсера ПВО.
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