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von Echenbach: 1. Ваши проекты и их критика. 2. В теме Минимально-максимальные имеется попытка создания супер-Улисса (по А. Маклину) и универсального крейсера. 3. Проект "супер-Виктория": отголосок французских ромбов, Инфлексибл и проект Фишера-Уоттса о 4х2 ГК с наложением на проект Виктория с добавлением "мелочи" из Центурион: 2 - 412 (1х2) 420/28 в носу, 6 (3х2) 254/32 -ромбом, 8-12 4,7/32.

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von Echenbach: Отказ Фишера от строительства "улучшенных Инвинсиблов","белых слонов" и "пиратов-адмиралов", принят аи-мини-Рипалс, 12 шт: 3 при Гранд-флите, 6 - при линейных крейсерах - лидеры крейсеров лёгких, 3 - в океане и резерве. аи-мини-Рипалс: laid down 1911 Displacement: 12 208 t light; 12 869 t standard; 14 071 t normal; 15 032 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (553,65 ft / 534,78 ft) x 68,90 ft x (22,97 / 24,19 ft) (168,75 m / 163,00 m) x 21,00 m x (7,00 / 7,37 m) Armament: 6 - 12,01" / 305 mm 45,0 cal guns - 873,08lbs / 396,02kg shells, 110 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1911 Model 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, forward deck forward 1 raised mount - superfiring 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, aft deck aft 12 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 32,66lbs / 14,81kg shells, 250 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1911 Model 12 x Single mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread 12 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas 4 - 2,99" / 76,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,51lbs / 6,13kg shells, 150 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1911 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 5 684 lbs / 2 578 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 0,913 t each, 3,651 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 5,98" / 152 mm 308,40 ft / 94,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: 2,01" / 51 mm 216,54 ft / 66,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 89% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 7,99" / 203 mm 4,02" / 102 mm 9,02" / 229 mm 2nd: 0,98" / 25 mm - - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 2,01" / 51 mm Forecastle: 0,98" / 25 mm Quarter deck: 0,98" / 25 mm - Conning towers: Forward 7,99" / 203 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 58 331 shp / 43 515 Kw = 28,00 kts Range 6 000nm at 13,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 2 164 tons Complement: 645 - 839 Cost: £1,269 million / $5,077 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 1 233 tons, 8,8% - Guns: 1 225 tons, 8,7% - Weapons: 7 tons, 0,1% Armour: 3 059 tons, 21,7% - Belts: 1 004 tons, 7,1% - Armament: 1 019 tons, 7,2% - Armour Deck: 935 tons, 6,6% - Conning Tower: 100 tons, 0,7% Machinery: 2 367 tons, 16,8% Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 549 tons, 39,4% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 862 tons, 13,2% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 18 028 lbs / 8 177 Kg = 20,8 x 12,0 " / 305 mm shells or 3,0 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,07 Metacentric height 3,3 ft / 1,0 m Roll period: 16,0 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 52 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,98 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,05 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,582 / 0,590 Length to Beam Ratio: 7,76 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 26,69 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 17,00 degrees Stern overhang: 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 29,53 ft / 9,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Forward deck: 46,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Aft deck: 19,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Average freeboard: 21,26 ft / 6,48 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 88,1% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 169,4% Waterplane Area: 27 606 Square feet or 2 565 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 111% Structure weight / hull surface area: 149 lbs/sq ft or 728 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,99 - Longitudinal: 2,08 - Overall: 1,06 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room

Пан директор: Как оно у вас в 13 тысяч тонн влазит? Да еще и с 8 дюймовой броней и скоростью 28 узлов!

von Echenbach: Пан директор пишет: Как оно :-) Сам удивляюсь. Простые манипуляции с Шарпом: форма корпуса, транец ( + скорость 1-2 уз.), легкие механизмы (относительно), сдвиг от максимальной захотевшейся скорости (32) к 28 уз для приличия. Палуба - минимум, нет ПТЗ, да она и не особо играет (или у меня не получается ПТЗ вставлять в расчёт, поэтому - без неё) до 20 000 т. Броня от 6" и дальность от 3000 миль - пишет, что "недогружен", добавляем запасов топлива - 6000 миль и броню. Мореходность страдает от высокой скорости - тоже метод и повод для снижения скорости. Запасы и веса надстроек на палубе и грузы не указываю - но не более 100-200 тонн, что тоже несущественно. СК и бронирование минимально, с последующим добавлением главного броневого пояса. Ставил бы барбеты, но - уж совсем немодно.

von Echenbach: аи-Аретуза, аи-англ ЛгКР-скаут laid down 1911 - Displacement: 3 565 t light; 3 720 t standard; 3 944 t normal; 4 123 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (414,73 ft / 396,98 ft) x 42,65 ft x (16,40 / 16,94 ft) (126,41 m / 121,00 m) x 13,00 m x (5,00 / 5,16 m) Armament: 8 - 5,98" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,07lbs / 49,02kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1911 Model 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 4 - 2,95" / 75,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 12,98lbs / 5,89kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1911 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 916 lbs / 416 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 0,913 t each, 3,651 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 2,01" / 51 mm 275,59 ft / 84,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Ends: 0,98" / 25 mm 118,11 ft / 36,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 107% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,98" / 25 mm 0,47" / 12 mm - 2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 2,01" / 51 mm Forecastle: 0,98" / 25 mm Quarter deck: 1,42" / 36 mm - Conning towers: Forward 2,01" / 51 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 28 242 shp / 21 069 Kw = 28,00 kts Range 2 800nm at 12,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 403 tons Complement: 248 - 323 Cost: £0,329 million / $1,315 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 164 tons, 4,2% - Guns: 157 tons, 4,0% - Weapons: 7 tons, 0,2% Armour: 671 tons, 17,0% - Belts: 228 tons, 5,8% - Armament: 21 tons, 0,5% - Armour Deck: 411 tons, 10,4% - Conning Tower: 11 tons, 0,3% Machinery: 1 146 tons, 29,1% Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 583 tons, 40,1% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 379 tons, 9,6% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 4 469 lbs / 2 027 Kg = 41,7 x 6,0 " / 152 mm shells or 1,3 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,23 Metacentric height 2,0 ft / 0,6 m Roll period: 12,6 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 56 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,31 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,12 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,497 / 0,503 Length to Beam Ratio: 9,31 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 22,87 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19,00 degrees Stern overhang: 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m - Aft deck: 39,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 13,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Average freeboard: 15,95 ft / 4,86 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 105,9% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 133,1% Waterplane Area: 11 699 Square feet or 1 087 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 117% Structure weight / hull surface area: 83 lbs/sq ft or 407 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,15 - Longitudinal: 2,59 - Overall: 1,24 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Аи - ПЛ, ЭМ и Лидеры - ? Ваши проекты, коллеги?

von Echenbach: Защитник торговли-антирейдер-тяжелый скаут. аи тип "Таун" (недоХаукинс). 12 + 4 ед. Защита ЛК от ЭМ и поддержка мини-Рипалсов, ЛгСкаутов. Подавление ЛгКР и ЭМ. Возможно базирование 3 гидросамолетов, две трубы (за второй - бортовая пара 190-мм, далее - самолеты, в корме - линейно-возвыш. пара 190-мм.). Что-то близкое м.б. уже мелькало, но не у англичан. Возможно. laid down 1910, Displacement: 5 202 t light; 5 466 t standard; 6 050 t normal; 6 517 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (464,06 ft / 446,19 ft) x 52,49 ft x (18,04 / 19,05 ft) (141,45 m / 136,00 m) x 16,00 m x (5,50 / 5,81 m) Armament: 5 - 7,48" / 190 mm 45,0 cal guns - 211,07lbs / 95,74kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1910 Model 3 x Single mounts on centreline ends, majority aft 1 raised mount aft - superfiring 2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft 12 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 32,66lbs / 14,81kg shells, 250 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1910 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread 8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas 4 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward 2 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1,56lbs / 0,71kg shells, 150 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1910 Model 2 x Single mounts on centreline, aft deck forward Weight of broadside 1 450 lbs / 658 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 0,909 t each, 3,635 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 4,02" / 102 mm 219,82 ft / 67,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: 1,46" / 37 mm 206,69 ft / 63,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 19,69 ft / 6,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 76% of normal length Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 4,72" / 120 mm 2,01" / 51 mm 4,02" / 102 mm 2nd: 0,47" / 12 mm - - - Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 1,65" / 42 mm Forecastle: 0,98" / 25 mm Quarter deck: 1,46" / 37 mm - Conning towers: Forward 4,02" / 102 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 35 386 shp / 26 398 Kw = 28,00 kts Range 5 600nm at 12,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 1 051 tons Complement: 342 - 445 Cost: £0,505 million / $2,020 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 375 tons, 6,2% - Guns: 368 tons, 6,1% - Weapons: 7 tons, 0,1% Armour: 1 273 tons, 21,0% - Belts: 493 tons, 8,2% - Armament: 271 tons, 4,5% - Armour Deck: 480 tons, 7,9% - Conning Tower: 29 tons, 0,5% Machinery: 1 462 tons, 24,2% Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 092 tons, 34,6% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 848 tons, 14,0% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 7 761 lbs / 3 520 Kg = 37,1 x 7,5 " / 190 mm shells or 1,9 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,18 Metacentric height 2,6 ft / 0,8 m Roll period: 13,7 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 52 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,51 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,03 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,501 / 0,511 Length to Beam Ratio: 8,50 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 24,42 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 17,00 degrees Stern overhang: 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Forward deck: 41,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Aft deck: 26,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Average freeboard: 17,59 ft / 5,36 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 97,6% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 151,7% Waterplane Area: 16 244 Square feet or 1 509 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 114% Structure weight / hull surface area: 90 lbs/sq ft or 441 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,94 - Longitudinal: 1,76 - Overall: 1,00 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room

von Echenbach: Ещё версия на тему "тяжёлый лёгкий крейсер" 6600т, 28-27 уз, 6 9,2", борт 4". laid down 1911, Displacement: 5 545 t light; 5 882 t standard; 6 317 t normal; 6 665 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (446,43 ft / 429,79 ft) x 59,06 ft x (16,40 / 17,08 ft) (136,07 m / 131,00 m) x 18,00 m x (5,00 / 5,20 m) Armament: 6 - 9,02" / 229 mm 45,0 cal guns - 369,54lbs / 167,62kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1911 Model 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, aft deck aft 8 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 32,66lbs / 14,81kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1911 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread 8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas 4 - 2,99" / 76,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,51lbs / 6,13kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1911 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward Weight of broadside 2 533 lbs / 1 149 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 19,8" / 503 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 1,119 t each, 4,477 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 2,99" / 76 mm 291,99 ft / 89,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: Unarmoured Main Belt covers 105% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 4,72" / 120 mm 2,01" / 51 mm 4,02" / 102 mm 2nd: 0,47" / 12 mm - - - Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 0,98" / 25 mm Forecastle: 0,71" / 18 mm Quarter deck: 0,98" / 25 mm - Conning towers: Forward 4,02" / 102 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 32 772 shp / 24 448 Kw = 27,00 kts Range 3 600nm at 12,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 783 tons (40% coal) Complement: 353 - 460 Cost: £0,610 million / $2,441 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 684 tons, 10,8% - Guns: 675 tons, 10,7% - Weapons: 9 tons, 0,1% Armour: 999 tons, 15,8% - Belts: 365 tons, 5,8% - Armament: 281 tons, 4,4% - Armour Deck: 324 tons, 5,1% - Conning Tower: 30 tons, 0,5% Machinery: 1 380 tons, 21,9% Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 431 tons, 38,5% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 772 tons, 12,2% Miscellaneous weights: 50 tons, 0,8% - On freeboard deck: 50 tons Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 7 825 lbs / 3 549 Kg = 21,4 x 9,0 " / 229 mm shells or 1,5 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,22 Metacentric height 3,3 ft / 1,0 m Roll period: 13,7 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,57 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,01 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,531 / 0,538 Length to Beam Ratio: 7,28 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 24,20 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 21,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Forward deck: 42,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Aft deck: 23,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Average freeboard: 17,96 ft / 5,48 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 104,0% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 166,4% Waterplane Area: 18 109 Square feet or 1 682 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 106% Structure weight / hull surface area: 108 lbs/sq ft or 527 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,94 - Longitudinal: 2,15 - Overall: 1,02 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room

von Echenbach: аи вариант Фирлесса - Свифта - Шекспира: laid down 1912, Displacement: 2 390 t light; 2 473 t standard; 2 584 t normal; 2 673 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (408,01 ft / 396,98 ft) x 42,65 ft x (12,14 / 12,42 ft) (124,36 m / 121,00 m) x 13,00 m x (3,70 / 3,79 m) Armament: 6 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 53,17lbs / 24,12kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1912 Model 2 x Single mounts on centreline, forward deck forward 1 raised mount - superfiring 4 x Single mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 2 raised mounts 4 - 2,99" / 76,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,51lbs / 6,13kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1912 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 373 lbs / 169 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 19,8" / 503 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 1,123 t each, 4,493 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted centre rotating tubes Main DC/AS Mortars 2 - 99,21 lbs / 45,00 kg Depth Charges + 8 reloads - 0,443 t total in Stern depth charge racks Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 0,98" / 25 mm 216,54 ft / 66,00 m 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Ends: Unarmoured Main Belt covers 84% of normal length Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,35" / 9 mm - - - Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 0,47" / 12 mm - Conning towers: Forward 0,47" / 12 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 27 730 shp / 20 687 Kw = 30,00 kts Range 1 800nm at 12,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 200 tons Complement: 180 - 235 Cost: £0,256 million / $1,026 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 76 tons, 2,9% - Guns: 66 tons, 2,6% - Weapons: 10 tons, 0,4% Armour: 150 tons, 5,8% - Belts: 60 tons, 2,3% - Armament: 5 tons, 0,2% - Armour Deck: 83 tons, 3,2% - Conning Tower: 2 tons, 0,1% Machinery: 1 106 tons, 42,8% Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 059 tons, 41,0% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 194 tons, 7,5% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 1 977 lbs / 897 Kg = 37,5 x 4,7 " / 120 mm shells or 0,7 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,38 Metacentric height 2,4 ft / 0,7 m Roll period: 11,5 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 52 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,14 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,04 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,440 / 0,445 Length to Beam Ratio: 9,31 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 23,05 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 61 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 11,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m - Aft deck: 39,00%, 11,48 ft / 3,50 m, 11,48 ft / 3,50 m - Quarter deck: 13,00%, 11,48 ft / 3,50 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Average freeboard: 15,09 ft / 4,60 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 145,6% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 142,9% Waterplane Area: 11 127 Square feet or 1 034 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 102% Structure weight / hull surface area: 63 lbs/sq ft or 306 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,94 - Longitudinal: 1,80 - Overall: 1,00 Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room

von Echenbach: аи-"Флауэрсы" (шлюпо-корветы) СКР, Эск. ТЩ и ударные силы групп ПЛО (рейдовые или поисково-ударные - с усиление ЭМ и лидерами-ЛгКР в "особо опасных областях". Турбины или паровые машины, возможна установка 4" орудий, но для Англии - против кого в океане - непонятно. Clematis-class AS-escort sloops-corvette: более 90 ед. Laid down 1913, Displacement: 477 t light; 493 t standard; 615 t normal; 712 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (227,64 ft / 216,54 ft) x 21,65 ft x (10,83 / 11,94 ft) (69,39 m / 66,00 m) x 6,60 m x (3,30 / 3,64 m) Armament: 3 - 2,99" / 76,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,51lbs / 6,13kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1913 Model 1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x Single mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount - superfiring 2 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1,56lbs / 0,71kg shells, 250 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1913 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 44 lbs / 20 kg Main Torpedoes 2 - 19,8" / 503 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 1,127 t each, 2,255 t total In 1 sets of deck mounted centre rotating tubes Main DC/AS Mortars 2 - 99,21 lbs / 45,00 kg Depth Charges + 28 reloads - 1,329 t total in Stern depth charge racks Armour: - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) 2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - - - Conning towers: Forward 0,47" / 12 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Coal fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 6 096 shp / 4 548 Kw = 24,00 kts Range 3 600nm at 12,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 219 tons (100% coal) Complement: 61 - 80 Cost: £0,061 million / $0,243 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 15 tons, 2,4% - Guns: 9 tons, 1,4% - Weapons: 6 tons, 1,0% Armour: 2 tons, 0,4% - Armament: 2 tons, 0,3% - Conning Tower: 1 tons, 0,1% Machinery: 263 tons, 42,7% Hull, fittings & equipment: 197 tons, 32,1% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 138 tons, 22,4% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 344 lbs / 156 Kg = 3,2 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,27 Metacentric height 0,8 ft / 0,2 m Roll period: 10,3 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 94 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,24 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,88 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,424 / 0,445 Length to Beam Ratio: 10,00 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 16,96 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 13,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Aft deck: 35,00%, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Average freeboard: 12,00 ft / 3,66 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 142,1% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 92,9% Waterplane Area: 3 043 Square feet or 283 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 112% Structure weight / hull surface area: 26 lbs/sq ft or 126 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,62 - Longitudinal: 5,66 - Overall: 0,77 Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Adequate accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

von Echenbach: Проект универсальной - средней подводной лодки (Шаприй под ПЛ не "заточен", поэтому - очень приблизительно): 550-650 т, 12/6 уз, два винта. 6 носовых 533-мм ТА и 6 (380-450 -мм) ТА для самообороны в лёгком корпусе на верхней палубе (четыре под рубкой, два в корме). Глубина погружения - 50-70 м, время погружения - 30-45 сек. "QS" submarine medium class - laid down 1912, Displacement: 535 t light; 546 t standard; 554 t normal; 561 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (165,08 ft / 157,48 ft) x 26,25 ft x (9,84 / 9,92 ft) (50,32 m / 48,00 m) x 8,00 m x (3,00 / 3,02 m) Armament: 1 - 2,24" / 57,0 mm 45,0 cal gun - 5,70lbs / 2,58kg shells, 70 per gun Quick firing gun in deck mount, 1912 Model 1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck forward Weight of broadside 6 lbs / 3 kg Main Torpedoes 6 - 21,0" / 533 mm, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m torpedoes - 1,444 t each, 8,666 t total submerged bow tubes 2nd Torpedoes 6 - 15,0" / 380 mm, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m torpedoes - 0,580 t each, 3,482 t total In 6 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes Machinery: Diesel Internal combustion generators plus batteries, Electric motors, 2 shafts, 676 shp / 504 Kw = 12,00 kts Range 1 200nm at 6,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 15 tons Complement: 56 - 74 Cost: £0,023 million / $0,091 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 23 tons, 4,1% - Guns: 1 tons, 0,2% - Weapons: 22 tons, 3,9% Machinery: 27 tons, 4,9% Hull, fittings & equipment: 485 tons, 87,5% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 19 tons, 3,5% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 2 212 lbs / 1 003 Kg = 20,5 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 1,1 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,28 Metacentric height 1,1 ft / 0,3 m Roll period: 10,7 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 85 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,01 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,69 Hull form characteristics: Hull has low forecastle, rise forward of midbreak, a straight bulbous bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,477 / 0,479 Length to Beam Ratio: 6,00 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 15,03 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 9,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Aft deck: 35,00%, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m, 3,28 ft / 1,00 m - Average freeboard: 7,30 ft / 2,23 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 30,8% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 73,7% Waterplane Area: 2 804 Square feet or 261 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 976% Structure weight / hull surface area: 112 lbs/sq ft or 547 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 3,05 - Longitudinal: 8,83 - Overall: 3,39 Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space Cramped accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

von Echenbach: "Облегченный и улучшенный почти реальный" проект аи-Инвинсибл, Англия, лёгкий аи-линейный крейсер, laid down 1908. Displacement: 16 593 t light; 17 364 t standard; 17 508 t normal; 17 622 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (626,64 ft / 610,24 ft) x 75,46 ft x (26,25 / 26,37 ft) (191,00 m / 186,00 m) x 23,00 m x (8,00 / 8,04 m) Armament: 8 - 12,01" / 305 mm 45,0 cal guns - 873,08lbs / 396,02kg shells, 100 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1908 Model 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount aft - superfiring 12 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 32,66lbs / 14,81kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1908 Model 12 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread 12 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas 4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1,97lbs / 0,89kg shells, 150 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1908 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward Weight of broadside 7 384 lbs / 3 350 kg Main Torpedoes 2 - 21,0" / 533 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 1,235 t each, 2,469 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 4,02" / 102 mm 341,21 ft / 104,00 m 11,48 ft / 3,50 m Ends: 1,26" / 32 mm 196,85 ft / 60,00 m 11,48 ft / 3,50 m 72,18 ft / 22,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 86% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 9,02" / 229 mm 4,72" / 120 mm 7,99" / 203 mm 2nd: 0,98" / 25 mm - - - Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 2,01" / 51 mm Forecastle: 0,98" / 25 mm Quarter deck: 1,46" / 37 mm - Conning towers: Forward 9,02" / 229 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 49 469 shp / 36 904 Kw = 26,00 kts Range 300nm at 10,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 258 tons (100% coal) Complement: 760 - 989 Cost: £1,637 million / $6,548 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 1 603 tons, 9,2% - Guns: 1 598 tons, 9,1% - Weapons: 5 tons, 0,0% Armour: 3 174 tons, 18,1% - Belts: 787 tons, 4,5% - Armament: 1 153 tons, 6,6% - Armour Deck: 1 103 tons, 6,3% - Conning Tower: 131 tons, 0,7% Machinery: 2 748 tons, 15,7% Hull, fittings & equipment: 9 067 tons, 51,8% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 915 tons, 5,2% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 20 844 lbs / 9 455 Kg = 24,1 x 12,0 " / 305 mm shells or 2,5 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,06 Metacentric height 3,7 ft / 1,1 m Roll period: 16,6 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 66 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,91 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,32 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a ram bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,507 / 0,508 Length to Beam Ratio: 8,09 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 26,75 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 7,00 degrees Stern overhang: 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 19,00%, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 21,33 ft / 6,50 m - Forward deck: 44,00%, 21,33 ft / 6,50 m, 21,33 ft / 6,50 m - Aft deck: 22,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Average freeboard: 19,39 ft / 5,91 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 85,9% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 150,1% Waterplane Area: 31 620 Square feet or 2 938 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 116% Structure weight / hull surface area: 209 lbs/sq ft or 1 019 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,33 - Longitudinal: 2,26 - Overall: 1,40 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

von Echenbach: Возможные крейсера-аи англичан 2 мв. 1. супер-Лондон (2-я серия "графств"): 10-11 000 т, 31 уз, дальность - 6000! (из ри 13000) миль, 4х3 203, 8-12 102, 8-16 40. Пояс - 89-76. Почти как "Фиджи" ри. 2. легкие крейсера - а) большие примерно соответствуют ри Фиджи и аи-супер-Лондон, но - 4х4 6"; б) малые, флотские - близки к "Авроре" ри с 3х2 6". В аи - 4х2 или 3х3 6"; в) эскортные - аи-супер-Дидо с 12х2 114 / 133 или 102 при недостаточном производстве. Уменьшение дальности компенсируется количеством баз-станций снабжения и формированием при мобилизации из торговых судов подвижных флотилий обеспечения. аи-аналиг ЛнКР/Ринаунов - ? 3з3 14" или - оставить как есть линейные крейсера?

von Echenbach: Завязалось некоторое обсуждение возможных прожектовЪ раннего Фишера Дж. (рыбак на зорьке в утреннем тумане) - у ув. бобра (https://biber550.livejournal.com/61442.html ) с некоторым "растеканием мыслей по древу" и отсылкой к https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/alltheworldsbattlecruisers/jacky-fisher-s-1882-battle-cruisers-hms-nonsuch-an-t8794.html и на цусе немного. Попытался 4х2 406 в 12000 т при 18 уз - пока не взошло , а вот с 13,5" 2х4 на 15" поясе и барбетах - почти... аи -ПротоИррезистибль: laid down 1882, Barbette ship, Displacement: 11 092 t light; 11 704 t standard; 12 008 t normal; 12 251 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (403,54 ft / 387,14 ft) x 68,90 ft x (24,28 / 24,70 ft) (123,00 m / 118,00 m) x 21,00 m x (7,40 / 7,53 m) Armament: 8 - 13,50" / 343 mm 30,0 cal guns - 1 064,62lbs / 482,90kg shells, 70 per gun Breech loading guns in open barbette mounts, 1882 Model 4 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, majority aft 12 - 4,45" / 113 mm 35,0 cal guns - 38,72lbs / 17,57kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1882 Model 12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread 12 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas 8 - 1,65" / 42,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 2,14lbs / 0,97kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1882 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread Weight of broadside 8 999 lbs / 4 082 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 15,0" / 381 mm 200,13 ft / 61,00 m 7,87 ft / 2,40 m Ends: 5,98" / 152 mm 160,76 ft / 49,00 m 7,87 ft / 2,40 m 26,25 ft / 8,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 80% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: - 3,39" / 86 mm 15,0" / 381 mm 2nd: 4,72" / 120 mm 0,47" / 12 mm - - Armoured deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 0,98" / 25 mm Forecastle: 0,71" / 18 mm Quarter deck: 0,71" / 18 mm - Conning towers: Forward 9,02" / 229 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines, Direct drive, 2 shafts, 8 795 ihp / 6 561 Kw = 16,00 kts Range 1 800nm at 8,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 548 tons (100% coal) Complement: 573 - 745 Cost: £1,025 million / $4,101 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 1 217 tons, 10,1% - Guns: 1 217 tons, 10,1% Armour: 4 059 tons, 33,8% - Belts: 1 409 tons, 11,7% - Armament: 2 190 tons, 18,2% - Armour Deck: 358 tons, 3,0% - Conning Tower: 102 tons, 0,8% Machinery: 1 770 tons, 14,7% Hull, fittings & equipment: 4 046 tons, 33,7% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 916 tons, 7,6% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 13 500 lbs / 6 124 Kg = 12,5 x 13,5 " / 343 mm shells or 2,1 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,37 Metacentric height 5,0 ft / 1,5 m Roll period: 13,0 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 87 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,73 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,74 Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a ram bow and a cruiser stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,649 / 0,651 Length to Beam Ratio: 5,62 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 19,68 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 43 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 7,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 17,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Aft deck: 39,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Average freeboard: 15,21 ft / 4,64 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 78,7% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 100,2% Waterplane Area: 20 414 Square feet or 1 897 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 106% Structure weight / hull surface area: 164 lbs/sq ft or 802 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,91 - Longitudinal: 2,43 - Overall: 1,00 Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space Adequate accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather 15" 4х2 на 15" и 13,5" броне - не радует...

Пан директор: Зато он картинку нарисовал. Хотя и не в масштабе Можно 4 пушки сделать в башнях и еще 4 - в коземате

von Echenbach: Пан директор пишет: Зато он картинку нарисовал Умеет и рисовать! Пан директор пишет: Можно 4 пушки сделать в башнях и еще 4 - в коземате Подобно версии проекта бркр т Минотавр. Прорисую схему, в т.ч и для франков гексагонально. С музой и временем иногда сложности.

von Echenbach: Ранняя версия Авианосца: идеи Аргуса, паромов и Виндиктива. 3 единицы , laid down 1913 Displacement: 8 450 t light; 8 690 t standard; 9 954 t normal; 10 966 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (584,87 ft / 570,87 ft) x 59,06 ft x (19,69 / 21,23 ft) (178,27 m / 174,00 m) x 18,00 m x (6,00 / 6,47 m) Armament: 4 - 5,98" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,07lbs / 49,02kg shells, 120 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1913 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck aft 4 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas 8 - 2,99" / 76,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,51lbs / 6,13kg shells, 180 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1913 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread 4 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1,56lbs / 0,71kg shells, 450 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1913 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 547 lbs / 248 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 2,99" / 76 mm 295,28 ft / 90,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: 1,46" / 37 mm 196,85 ft / 60,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 78,74 ft / 24,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 80% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,31" / 8 mm - - - Armoured deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 1,26" / 32 mm Forecastle: 0,71" / 18 mm Quarter deck: 0,94" / 24 mm - Conning towers: Forward 0,71" / 18 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 50 867 shp / 37 947 Kw = 28,00 kts Range 8 000nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 2 276 tons Complement: 497 - 647 Cost: £0,656 million / $2,623 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 98 tons, 1,0% - Guns: 98 tons, 1,0% Armour: 993 tons, 10,0% - Belts: 477 tons, 4,8% - Armament: 2 tons, 0,0% - Armour Deck: 506 tons, 5,1% - Conning Tower: 7 tons, 0,1% Machinery: 1 993 tons, 20,0% Hull, fittings & equipment: 4 746 tons, 47,7% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 505 tons, 15,1% Miscellaneous weights: 620 tons, 6,2% - Hull below water: 400 tons - Hull above water: 120 tons - On freeboard deck: 60 tons - Above deck: 40 tons Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 18 595 lbs / 8 435 Kg = 173,5 x 6,0 " / 152 mm shells or 2,3 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,21 Metacentric height 3,2 ft / 1,0 m Roll period: 13,8 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 85 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,07 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,69 Hull form characteristics: Hull has low quarterdeck , a normal bow and a cruiser stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,525 / 0,536 Length to Beam Ratio: 9,67 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 23,89 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 9,00 degrees Stern overhang: 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Aft deck: 35,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Average freeboard: 21,75 ft / 6,63 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 74,2% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 202,3% Waterplane Area: 22 985 Square feet or 2 135 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 170% Structure weight / hull surface area: 124 lbs/sq ft or 603 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,38 - Longitudinal: 2,33 - Overall: 1,45 Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather Трубы разнесены в сторону, лёгкие решетчатые краны-мостики с носа - на местах носовой надстройки, кормовые краны. Полётная палуба + м.б. катапульта, 4-6 машин, Ангарная палуба - 6-8 машин, Нижний ангар - 12-16 самолётов в сложенном состоянии и носовой-кормовой лифты или выдвижные платформы у кранов. Самолеты: колёсные, аи-Де Хевиланд ДР-123аи, 1х180 лс, 120 км/ч, 2,5 часа, 2 чел, 2 пулемёта, 580 кг/1 торпеда, биплан, толкающий винт ( м.б. два двигателя по 110 лс), крылья складнын, 2 тонны, 15/6 или 5 мх11х2,8 м.

von Echenbach: Лидер ЭМ аи-Свифт, минимизирован по дальности и скорости, 1650 т, 32 уз 3 152/45, 3 76, 2х2 та. laid down 1909, Displacement: 1 522 t light; 1 585 t standard; 1 643 t normal; 1 689 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (377,66 ft / 364,17 ft) x 32,81 ft x (9,84 / 10,04 ft) (115,11 m / 111,00 m) x 10,00 m x (3,00 / 3,06 m) Armament: 3 - 5,98" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,07lbs / 49,02kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1909 Model 3 x Single mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 3 - 2,99" / 76,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,51lbs / 6,13kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1909 Model 1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 365 lbs / 165 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 21,0" / 533 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 1,239 t each, 4,954 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted centre rotating tubes Armour: - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,24" / 6 mm - - - Conning towers: Forward 0,35" / 9 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 27 207 shp / 20 296 Kw = 31,00 kts Range 900nm at 13,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 104 tons Complement: 128 - 167 Cost: £0,196 million / $0,786 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 73 tons, 4,4% - Guns: 63 tons, 3,8% - Weapons: 10 tons, 0,6% Armour: 3 tons, 0,2% - Armament: 2 tons, 0,1% - Conning Tower: 1 tons, 0,1% Machinery: 899 tons, 54,7% Hull, fittings & equipment: 547 tons, 33,3% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 121 tons, 7,4% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 583 lbs / 264 Kg = 5,4 x 6,0 " / 152 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,37 Metacentric height 1,6 ft / 0,5 m Roll period: 10,8 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,25 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,03 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,489 / 0,493 Length to Beam Ratio: 11,10 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 20,40 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 64 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 18,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 21,33 ft / 6,50 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Forward deck: 26,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Aft deck: 39,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Average freeboard: 13,50 ft / 4,12 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 187,3% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 125,3% Waterplane Area: 8 069 Square feet or 750 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 62% Structure weight / hull surface area: 41 lbs/sq ft or 200 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,72 - Longitudinal: 1,58 - Overall: 0,77 Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room

von Echenbach: аи- кинг Джордж: laid down 1937 Displacement: 30 805 t light; 33 281 t standard; 35 007 t normal; 36 388 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (754,59 ft / 731,63 ft) x 91,86 ft (Bulges 111,55 ft) x (26,25 / 27,23 ft) (230,00 m / 223,00 m) x 28,00 m (Bulges 34,00 m) x (8,00 / 8,30 m) Armament: 12 - 15,98" / 406 mm 45,0 cal guns - 2 059,37lbs / 934,11kg shells, 120 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1937 Model 1 x 4-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 4-gun mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount aft - superfiring 24 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 32,66lbs / 14,81kg shells, 250 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1937 Model 6 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft 2 raised mounts - superfiring 6 x 2-gun mounts on sides, aft deck forward 2 raised mounts - superfiring 24 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1,97lbs / 0,89kg shells, 750 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1937 Model 12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread 16 raised mounts Weight of broadside 25 543 lbs / 11 586 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 14,2" / 360 mm 400,26 ft / 122,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: 2,99" / 76 mm 328,08 ft / 100,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 84% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 12,6" / 320 mm 3,94" / 100 mm 14,2" / 360 mm 2nd: 1,42" / 36 mm 0,47" / 12 mm - 3rd: 0,28" / 7 mm - - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 1,89" / 48 mm Forecastle: 0,87" / 22 mm Quarter deck: 1,34" / 34 mm - Conning towers: Forward 7,09" / 180 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 87 507 shp / 65 280 Kw = 27,00 kts Range 6 000nm at 15,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 3 106 tons Complement: 1 279 - 1 663 Cost: £20,519 million / $82,078 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 5 049 tons, 14,4% - Guns: 5 049 tons, 14,4% Armour: 7 357 tons, 21,0% - Belts: 2 926 tons, 8,4% - Armament: 2 659 tons, 7,6% - Armour Deck: 1 609 tons, 4,6% - Conning Tower: 163 tons, 0,5% Machinery: 2 425 tons, 6,9% Hull, fittings & equipment: 15 974 tons, 45,6% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4 202 tons, 12,0% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 41 267 lbs / 18 718 Kg = 20,2 x 16,0 " / 406 mm shells or 3,9 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,21 Metacentric height 6,3 ft / 1,9 m Roll period: 18,7 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,69 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,03 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, an extended bulbous bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,572 / 0,573 Length to Beam Ratio: 6,56 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 29,47 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 21,00 degrees Stern overhang: 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 29,53 ft / 9,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Forward deck: 46,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Aft deck: 21,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Average freeboard: 20,14 ft / 6,14 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 83,9% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 145,3% Waterplane Area: 49 078 Square feet or 4 560 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 101% Structure weight / hull surface area: 259 lbs/sq ft or 1 263 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,01 - Longitudinal: 1,38 - Overall: 1,04 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room

von Echenbach: Проект аи "флотского крейсера"-эскорт-ПВО Линдер (3х2) - Фиджи (3х3) 152/50 пирамида в носу и 4х2 (в т.ч. 2х2 возвышенно) на корме laid down 1930, Displacement: 5 279 t light; 5 527 t standard; 6 038 t normal; 6 447 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (475,95 ft / 456,04 ft) x 49,21 ft x (16,40 / 17,28 ft) (145,07 m / 139,00 m) x 15,00 m x (5,00 / 5,27 m) Armament: 9 - 5,98" / 152 mm 50,0 cal guns - 113,44lbs / 51,45kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1930 Model 3 x 3-gun mounts on centreline, forward deck forward 1 raised mount - superfiring 8 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 32,66lbs / 14,81kg shells, 250 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1930 Model 4 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 2 raised mounts 8 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1,56lbs / 0,71kg shells, 750 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1930 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 1 295 lbs / 587 kg Main Torpedoes 6 - 21,0" / 533 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 1,323 t each, 7,935 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Main DC/AS Mortars 2 - 105,82 lbs / 48,00 kg Depth Charges + 8 reloads - 0,472 t total in Stern depth charge racks Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 2,99" / 76 mm 308,40 ft / 94,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: Unarmoured Main Belt covers 104% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 2,01" / 51 mm 0,98" / 25 mm 4,02" / 102 mm 2nd: 0,35" / 9 mm 0,20" / 5 mm - 3rd: 0,16" / 4 mm - - - Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 1,26" / 32 mm Forecastle: 0,71" / 18 mm Quarter deck: 0,98" / 25 mm - Conning towers: Forward 2,01" / 51 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 51 423 shp / 38 362 Kw = 30,00 kts Range 5 000nm at 15,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 920 tons Complement: 342 - 445 Cost: £2,190 million / $8,758 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 394 tons, 6,5% - Guns: 378 tons, 6,3% - Weapons: 16 tons, 0,3% Armour: 977 tons, 16,2% - Belts: 376 tons, 6,2% - Armament: 223 tons, 3,7% - Armour Deck: 364 tons, 6,0% - Conning Tower: 14 tons, 0,2% Machinery: 1 558 tons, 25,8% Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 320 tons, 38,4% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 758 tons, 12,6% Miscellaneous weights: 30 tons, 0,5% - Hull below water: 10 tons - Hull above water: 5 tons - On freeboard deck: 15 tons Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 7 177 lbs / 3 256 Kg = 67,0 x 6,0 " / 152 mm shells or 1,2 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,09 Metacentric height 2,0 ft / 0,6 m Roll period: 14,4 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 52 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,68 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,01 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,574 / 0,582 Length to Beam Ratio: 9,27 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 22,88 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 51 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 21,00 degrees Stern overhang: 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 19,00%, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Forward deck: 52,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Aft deck: 14,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Average freeboard: 18,53 ft / 5,65 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 103,2% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 163,2% Waterplane Area: 16 420 Square feet or 1 525 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 115% Structure weight / hull surface area: 94 lbs/sq ft or 457 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,97 - Longitudinal: 2,17 - Overall: 1,06 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room

von Echenbach: аи- Гуд Хоуп, бранденбургизированный - 3х2 234, 16 152, 21 уз, борт 152; laid down 1896, Displacement: 12 029 t light; 12 636 t standard; 14 043 t normal; 15 168 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (541,34 ft / 518,37 ft) x 72,18 ft x (22,97 / 24,44 ft) (165,00 m / 158,00 m) x 22,00 m x (7,00 / 7,45 m) Armament: 6 - 9,21" / 234 mm 46,0 cal guns - 403,04lbs / 182,82kg shells, 120 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1896 Model 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 16 - 5,98" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,07lbs / 49,02kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1896 Model 16 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread 16 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas 16 - 2,99" / 76,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,51lbs / 6,13kg shells, 180 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1896 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft 8 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft 8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas Weight of broadside 4 363 lbs / 1 979 kg Main Torpedoes 2 - 18,0" / 457 mm, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m torpedoes - 0,519 t each, 1,037 t total submerged bow & stern tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 5,98" / 152 mm 393,70 ft / 120,00 m 7,87 ft / 2,40 m Ends: 2,01" / 51 mm 72,18 ft / 22,00 m 7,87 ft / 2,40 m 52,49 ft / 16,00 m Unarmoured ends Upper: 5,98" / 152 mm 393,70 ft / 120,00 m 7,87 ft / 2,40 m Main Belt covers 117% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 5,98" / 152 mm 1,97" / 50 mm 5,98" / 152 mm 2nd: 5,00" / 127 mm 0,47" / 12 mm - - Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 1,77" / 45 mm Forecastle: 0,98" / 25 mm Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm - Conning towers: Forward 10,00" / 254 mm, Aft 2,01" / 51 mm Machinery: Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines, Direct drive, 2 shafts, 24 406 ihp / 18 207 Kw = 21,50 kts Range 6 200nm at 11,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 2 532 tons (100% coal) Complement: 644 - 838 Cost: £1,314 million / $5,257 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 1 026 tons, 7,3% - Guns: 1 024 tons, 7,3% - Weapons: 2 tons, 0,0% Armour: 3 076 tons, 21,9% - Belts: 1 582 tons, 11,3% - Armament: 526 tons, 3,7% - Armour Deck: 817 tons, 5,8% - Conning Towers: 151 tons, 1,1% Machinery: 4 068 tons, 29,0% Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 859 tons, 27,5% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 014 tons, 14,3% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 11 803 lbs / 5 354 Kg = 30,2 x 9,2 " / 234 mm shells or 3,8 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,44 Metacentric height 5,8 ft / 1,8 m Roll period: 12,6 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 88 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,36 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,76 Hull form characteristics: Hull has raised forecastle, a ram bow and a cruiser stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,572 / 0,580 Length to Beam Ratio: 7,18 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 22,77 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 9,00 degrees Stern overhang: 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Aft deck: 35,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Average freeboard: 17,57 ft / 5,36 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 116,1% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 129,3% Waterplane Area: 26 656 Square feet or 2 476 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 98% Structure weight / hull surface area: 116 lbs/sq ft or 569 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,96 - Longitudinal: 1,45 - Overall: 1,00 Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

von Echenbach: МН типа "Крикет" / ТВ-17 - возможно, оставшиеся в тени на фоне ярких значительных событий и кораблей. По замыслу Д. Фишера, этот подкласс ЭМ - малых, должен был выполнять функции ЭМ в "узких морях" (Ла-Манш и Ирландское море) и быть основой рейдовой обороны гаваней. Как всегда, от корабликов захотели "способностей на всё" и, естественно - разочаровались. Вероятно, в их постройке имелся ещё один мотив - технологическая отработка строительства и применения турбин: иначе зачем такая сложная трёхвальная ДЭУ. Малые размеры и мощность - возможно, планирование получения дешевой технологичной турбины для будущих шлюпов ТЩ и ПЛО. Но победила паровая машина с одним винтом (Флауэрсы). Аи: 1. Покупка проекта для РИФ-аи с упрощением и м.б. увеличением размеров во втором подтипе: 300 и 600 тонн,4-5 76/50 (3 102/45) 3х2/2х3 та, ГБ, тралы и ЗМ. 2. Для увеличения мореходности в проекте добавляется полубак (до, вкл., кормовой трубы). Немецкие, австрийские, итальянские и голландские МН заслужили неплохие эксплуатационные отзывы.

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