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Италия - Австрия, 1 Мировая альтернатива (продолжение)

von Echenbach: АИ вариант истории: Анонс "Спасение империи требует создания республики!" - с таким лейтмотивом прозвучало обращение к подданным 1 июля 1914 года эрцгерцога Франца Фердинанда, появившегося на площади в Будапеште после неудавшегося покушения в Сараево. Эрцгерцог получил тяжелое ранение, не угрожавшее, однако, его жизни. Обращение привело к последующему объявлению императором Францем Иосифом о начале двуединого правления с Францем Фердинандом. Я. Гашек уже сможет написать: "убили-то подстрелили-то Фердинанда нашего"- сказал Швейк... Далее было объявлено о создании "Единой республиканской ("семиреспубликанской") Священной империи Центральной Европы. Все эти изменения фактически подводили итог многолетней работе, проводимой Францем Фердинандом. ... После вступления Италии в войну на стороне Антанты в мае 1915 года, в августе последовала стратегическая десантная операция Австро-Венгрии . В районе Римини была высажена Ударная армия, взято побережье Сан-Марино - Комаккьо. Армия продвинулась до Кьеджо (У Венецианского залива), Ровиго, Феррара и Модена с угрозой Падуе, Мантуе и Парме. Передовые отряды на южном фасе заняли перевалы и подходы к Флоренции и ... Итальянский фронт рухнул в течение 3-х недель. Факторами, способствовавшими успехам сухопутных войск были: широкое применение авиации, штурмовых бомбомётов и легких бронированых самоходных устройств-тракторов с бронеавтомобилями. Одновременно королю Италии был предложен договор о мире с весьма мягкими условиями и заманчивыми перспективами сотрудничества. В Адриатике происходили активные морские действия для предотвращения блокады десанта. Значительная часть работы выполнялась подводными лодками, минными заградителями. Активно действовали линейные и лёгкие силы. Наибольший эффект произошел от применения для высадки специальных десантных кораблей. Состав флотов в Антанте - реал. Предложения и замечания - ?

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von Echenbach: Железнодорожный паром - Транспорт- МЗ/судно снабжения - десантный корабль. В трюмах (между бортовыми МО / турбины и котлы) - два пути, на грузовой палубе - 4 пути с возможностью установки на путь вагона с 20 т груза (50-60 вагонов. Верхняя палуба - пассажирские надстройки. В корме параллельно два лифта на 1 вагон. В серии - 6 ед: маршруты - Пола-Зара-Себенико-Катар. Или Пола-Венеция/Бриндизи. laid down 1906 Displacement: 9 736 t light; 9 978 t standard; 10 207 t normal; 10 390 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (503,23 ft / 492,13 ft) x 78,74 ft x (16,40 / 16,63 ft) (153,39 m / 150,00 m) x 24,00 m x (5,00 / 5,07 m) Armament: 8 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 53,17lbs / 24,12kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1906 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread 4 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 8,85lbs / 4,01kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1906 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft 4 raised mounts Weight of broadside 461 lbs / 209 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 0,47" / 12 mm 492,13 ft / 150,00 m 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Main Belt covers 154% of normal length - Conning towers: Forward 0,47" / 12 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Direct drive, 2 shafts, 18 708 shp / 13 956 Kw = 21,00 kts Range 800nm at 12,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 412 tons (66% coal) Complement: 507 - 660 Cost: £0,544 million / $2,175 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 81 tons, 0,8% - Guns: 81 tons, 0,8% Armour: 61 tons, 0,6% - Belts: 56 tons, 0,6% - Conning Tower: 5 tons, 0,0% Machinery: 1 292 tons, 12,7% Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 601 tons, 35,3% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 471 tons, 4,6% Miscellaneous weights: 4 700 tons, 46,0% - Hull below water: 4 400 tons - Hull above water: 250 tons - On freeboard deck: 50 tons Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 22 591 lbs / 10 247 Kg = 209,2 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 2,2 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,78 Metacentric height 8,9 ft / 2,7 m Roll period: 11,1 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,03 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2,00 Hull form characteristics: Hull has low forecastle, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,562 / 0,564 Length to Beam Ratio: 6,25 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 26,15 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 13,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 16,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m - Aft deck: 40,00%, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m - Average freeboard: 24,88 ft / 7,58 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 93,2% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 280,8% Waterplane Area: 28 481 Square feet or 2 646 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 135% Structure weight / hull surface area: 93 lbs/sq ft or 452 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,92 - Longitudinal: 2,14 - Overall: 1,00 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

von Echenbach: аи-проекты "экспериментальных" кораблей: 1. аи-Вена с 2х3 240 и 8х1 120, 16 уз, 230-мм борт, 6500т. БрБО laid down 1901, Displacement: 5 877 t light; 6 210 t standard; 6 365 t normal; 6 489 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (408,46 ft / 396,98 ft) x 62,34 ft x (13,12 / 13,34 ft) (124,50 m / 121,00 m) x 19,00 m x (4,00 / 4,07 m) Armament: 6 - 9,45" / 240 mm 45,0 cal guns - 425,39lbs / 192,95kg shells, 120 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1901 Model 1 x 3-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 1 x 3-gun mount on centreline, aft deck aft 8 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 53,17lbs / 24,12kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1901 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft 2 raised mounts 4 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward 2 raised mounts Weight of broadside 2 978 lbs / 1 351 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 9,06" / 230 mm 223,10 ft / 68,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Ends: 1,97" / 50 mm 137,80 ft / 42,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 36,09 ft / 11,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 86% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 7,87" / 200 mm 3,54" / 90 mm 7,87" / 200 mm 2nd: 1,97" / 50 mm 0,39" / 10 mm - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 1,57" / 40 mm Forecastle: 0,98" / 25 mm Quarter deck: 0,98" / 25 mm - Conning towers: Forward 7,09" / 180 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines, Direct drive, 2 shafts, 6 164 ihp / 4 598 Kw = 16,00 kts Range 900nm at 11,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 279 tons (100% coal) Complement: 356 - 463 Cost: £0,598 million / $2,390 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 784 tons, 12,3% - Guns: 784 tons, 12,3% Armour: 1 865 tons, 29,3% - Belts: 859 tons, 13,5% - Armament: 406 tons, 6,4% - Armour Deck: 548 tons, 8,6% - Conning Tower: 52 tons, 0,8% Machinery: 948 tons, 14,9% Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 279 tons, 35,8% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 488 tons, 7,7% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 9 454 lbs / 4 288 Kg = 22,4 x 9,4 " / 240 mm shells or 1,7 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,37 Metacentric height 4,3 ft / 1,3 m Roll period: 12,6 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 68 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,44 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,35 Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a ram bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,686 / 0,688 Length to Beam Ratio: 6,37 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 21,59 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 38 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 9,00 degrees Stern overhang: 4,92 ft / 1,50 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Aft deck: 35,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Average freeboard: 13,77 ft / 4,20 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 86,1% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 141,2% Waterplane Area: 20 105 Square feet or 1 868 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 102% Structure weight / hull surface area: 109 lbs/sq ft or 530 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,97 - Longitudinal: 1,41 - Overall: 1,00 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily 2. аи- бркр Санкт-Георг 1х3 305, 2х2 (м.б. 2х3) 190, 8-12 120, 26 уз. Попытка создать стандартный тип турбин. laid down 1907, Displacement: 7 470 t light; 7 880 t standard; 8 068 t normal; 8 219 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (509,88 ft / 495,41 ft) x 55,77 ft x (16,40 / 16,65 ft) (155,41 m / 151,00 m) x 17,00 m x (5,00 / 5,08 m) Armament: 3 - 12,01" / 305 mm 45,0 cal guns - 873,08lbs / 396,02kg shells, 110 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mount, 1907 Model 1 x 3-gun mount on centreline, aft deck aft 4 - 7,48" / 190 mm 42,0 cal guns - 202,94lbs / 92,05kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1907 Model 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, aft deck centre 1 raised mount 8 - 3,94" / 100,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,77lbs / 13,96kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1907 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread 8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas Weight of broadside 3 677 lbs / 1 668 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 4,72" / 120 mm 252,62 ft / 77,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 108,27 ft / 33,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 134,51 ft / 41,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 78% of normal length Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 4,72" / 120 mm 2,36" / 60 mm 5,51" / 140 mm 2nd: 3,15" / 80 mm 1,57" / 40 mm 3,15" / 80 mm 3rd: 0,79" / 20 mm 0,39" / 10 mm - - Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 1,18" / 30 mm Forecastle: 0,79" / 20 mm Quarter deck: 0,79" / 20 mm - Conning towers: Forward 3,54" / 90 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 3 shafts, 34 571 shp / 25 790 Kw = 26,00 kts Range 900nm at 12,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 339 tons (66% coal) Complement: 425 - 553 Cost: £0,882 million / $3,526 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 829 tons, 10,3% - Guns: 829 tons, 10,3% Armour: 1 331 tons, 16,5% - Belts: 562 tons, 7,0% - Armament: 301 tons, 3,7% - Armour Deck: 437 tons, 5,4% - Conning Tower: 31 tons, 0,4% Machinery: 2 090 tons, 25,9% Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 220 tons, 39,9% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 598 tons, 7,4% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 6 347 lbs / 2 879 Kg = 7,3 x 12,0 " / 305 mm shells or 1,0 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,16 Metacentric height 2,8 ft / 0,8 m Roll period: 14,1 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,91 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,02 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,623 / 0,625 Length to Beam Ratio: 8,88 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 23,83 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Forward deck: 42,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Aft deck: 23,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Average freeboard: 15,81 ft / 4,82 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 121,0% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 144,7% Waterplane Area: 21 176 Square feet or 1 967 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 93% Structure weight / hull surface area: 121 lbs/sq ft or 590 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,96 - Longitudinal: 1,37 - Overall: 1,00 Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room

von Echenbach: Модификация винтовки Манлихера-Шеннауэра: а) Барабанный механизм, сменный, на 7-8 патронов, ака "вывернутый/перевёрнутый" Наган/Кольт/Смит-Вессон; б) Самозарядная винтовка, короткая и облегченная, с затвором и автономной досылательной пружиной: выстрел - откат затвора, выброс гильзы и взвод бойка + подача патрона - первое положение спуска курка освобождает досылательную пружину - второе нажатие - выстрел. Т.е. около 3 сек/выстрел или 20 выстр. в минуту. Длина - 115 мм, длина ствола 650 мм, калибр 6,5 мм, вес пули 9 г, нач. скорость 678 м/с, прицельная дальность 900 м/ реально до 600 м. Магазин (отъёмный) - 18-20 патронов, вес - 2,7 кг. + штык-нож для традиции и вскрывания консервов).


von Echenbach: "Допиленные" аи-проекты к аи-1 мв: Вирибус Унитис - 3х3 406/42, 12 120/45, 280 мм борт, 24 узла; laid down 1911, Displacement: 20 854 t light; 22 364 t standard; 23 130 t normal; 23 744 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (587,50 ft / 567,59 ft) x 91,86 ft x (24,61 / 25,14 ft) (179,07 m / 173,00 m) x 28,00 m x (7,50 / 7,66 m) Armament: 9 - 15,98" / 406 mm 42,0 cal guns - 1 980,10lbs / 898,16kg shells, 100 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1911 Model 1 x 3-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount aft - superfiring 12 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 53,17lbs / 24,12kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1911 Model 12 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread 12 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas 6 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 8,85lbs / 4,01kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1911 Model 6 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 18 512 lbs / 8 397 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 11,0" / 280 mm 334,65 ft / 102,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: 2,36" / 60 mm 223,10 ft / 68,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 91% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 10,2" / 260 mm 3,54" / 90 mm 10,2" / 260 mm 2nd: 0,59" / 15 mm 0,28" / 7 mm - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 2,36" / 60 mm Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,57" / 40 mm - Conning towers: Forward 10,24" / 260 mm, Aft 3,54" / 90 mm Machinery: Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 48 268 shp / 36 008 Kw = 24,00 kts Range 2 400nm at 13,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 1 380 tons (33% coal) Complement: 937 - 1 219 Cost: £2,596 million / $10,384 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 3 412 tons, 14,7% - Guns: 3 412 tons, 14,7% Armour: 5 511 tons, 23,8% - Belts: 1 836 tons, 7,9% - Armament: 1 786 tons, 7,7% - Armour Deck: 1 647 tons, 7,1% - Conning Towers: 241 tons, 1,0% Machinery: 2 019 tons, 8,7% Hull, fittings & equipment: 9 911 tons, 42,8% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 277 tons, 9,8% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 26 068 lbs / 11 824 Kg = 12,8 x 16,0 " / 406 mm shells or 2,7 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,15 Metacentric height 5,7 ft / 1,7 m Roll period: 16,2 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 53 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 1,00 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,06 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,631 / 0,634 Length to Beam Ratio: 6,18 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 25,94 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 21,00 degrees Stern overhang: 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Forward deck: 46,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Aft deck: 21,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Average freeboard: 18,51 ft / 5,64 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 90,3% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 148,5% Waterplane Area: 40 260 Square feet or 3 740 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 94% Structure weight / hull surface area: 217 lbs/sq ft or 1 061 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,93 - Longitudinal: 1,87 - Overall: 1,00 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room аи-Санкт Георг, экспериментальный корабль - турбины, 3х3 240, 12 88, 26 уз, борт 140 мм; laid down 1907, Displacement: 8 567 t light; 9 020 t standard; 9 457 t normal; 9 806 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (502,24 ft / 485,56 ft) x 62,34 ft x (18,04 / 18,58 ft) (153,08 m / 148,00 m) x 19,00 m x (5,50 / 5,66 m) Armament: 9 - 9,45" / 240 mm 45,0 cal guns - 425,39lbs / 192,95kg shells, 110 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1907 Model 1 x 3-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount aft - superfiring 12 - 3,46" / 88,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 20,97lbs / 9,51kg shells, 180 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1907 Model 12 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread 12 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas 6 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 8,85lbs / 4,01kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1907 Model 6 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 4 133 lbs / 1 875 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 5,51" / 140 mm 357,61 ft / 109,00 m 7,87 ft / 2,40 m Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 91,86 ft / 28,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 36,09 ft / 11,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 113% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 5,51" / 140 mm 2,36" / 60 mm 5,51" / 140 mm 2nd: 0,59" / 15 mm 0,28" / 7 mm - - Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 1,18" / 30 mm Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm - Conning towers: Forward 5,51" / 140 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 3 shafts, 38 467 shp / 28 696 Kw = 26,00 kts Range 2 000nm at 13,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 787 tons (33% coal) Complement: 479 - 623 Cost: £0,989 million / $3,954 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 1 122 tons, 11,9% - Guns: 1 122 tons, 11,9% Armour: 1 735 tons, 18,3% - Belts: 686 tons, 7,3% - Armament: 493 tons, 5,2% - Armour Deck: 503 tons, 5,3% - Conning Tower: 53 tons, 0,6% Machinery: 2 253 tons, 23,8% Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 457 tons, 36,6% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 890 tons, 9,4% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 8 757 lbs / 3 972 Kg = 20,8 x 9,4 " / 240 mm shells or 1,3 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,14 Metacentric height 3,1 ft / 1,0 m Roll period: 14,8 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 53 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,90 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,05 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,606 / 0,610 Length to Beam Ratio: 7,79 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 23,76 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19,00 degrees Stern overhang: 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 17,00%, 24,61 ft / 7,50 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Forward deck: 48,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Aft deck: 21,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Average freeboard: 17,95 ft / 5,47 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 113,1% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 160,6% Waterplane Area: 22 828 Square feet or 2 121 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 97% Structure weight / hull surface area: 126 lbs/sq ft or 615 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,95 - Longitudinal: 1,68 - Overall: 1,00 Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room

von Echenbach: Традиционно, для аиА-В: аи микро карманный линкор - 2-3 ед: "Пола", laid down 1909, Displacement:5 536 t light; 5 858 t standard; 6 189 t normal; 6 455 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (426,42 ft / 406,82 ft) x 55,77 ft x (16,40 / 16,96 ft) (129,97 m / 124,00 m) x 17,00 m x (5,00 / 5,17 m) Armament: 6 - 9,45" / 240 mm 45,0 cal guns - 425,39lbs / 192,95kg shells, 120 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1909 Model 1 x 3-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 1 x 3-gun mount on centreline, aft deck aft 12 - 3,46" / 88,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 20,97lbs / 9,51kg shells, 180 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1909 Model 6 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft 6 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas 6 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward 6 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas 4 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 8,85lbs / 4,01kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1909 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 2 839 lbs / 1 288 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m torpedoes - 0,767 t each, 3,066 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 2,60" / 66 mm 305,12 ft / 93,00 m 7,87 ft / 2,40 m Ends: 0,87" / 22 mm 85,30 ft / 26,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 16,40 ft / 5,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 115% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 3,94" / 100 mm 0,87" / 22 mm 3,46" / 88 mm 2nd: 0,71" / 18 mm 0,35" / 9 mm - - Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 1,73" / 44 mm Forecastle: 0,87" / 22 mm Quarter deck: 0,87" / 22 mm - Conning towers: Forward 3,46" / 88 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 3 shafts, 31 538 shp / 23 527 Kw = 26,00 kts Range 2 200nm at 13,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 596 tons (33% coal) Complement: 348 - 453 Cost: £0,654 million / $2,615 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 769 tons, 12,4% - Guns: 763 tons, 12,3% - Weapons: 6 tons, 0,1% Armour: 1 007 tons, 16,3% - Belts: 287 tons, 4,6% - Armament: 203 tons, 3,3% - Armour Deck: 492 tons, 7,9% - Conning Tower: 25 tons, 0,4% Machinery: 1 478 tons, 23,9% Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 282 tons, 36,9% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 653 tons, 10,6% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 6 093 lbs / 2 764 Kg = 14,4 x 9,4 " / 240 mm shells or 1,8 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,19 Metacentric height 2,9 ft / 0,9 m Roll period: 13,8 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,81 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,02 Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a normal bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,582 / 0,587 Length to Beam Ratio: 7,29 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 21,84 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 61 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 23,00 degrees Stern overhang: 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 19,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m - Forward deck: 28,00%, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m - Aft deck: 38,00%, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Average freeboard: 18,54 ft / 5,65 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 114,9% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 162,8% Waterplane Area: 16 727 Square feet or 1 554 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 97% Structure weight / hull surface area: 109 lbs/sq ft or 532 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,90 - Longitudinal: 2,35 - Overall: 1,00 Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room аи-лгкр "Гуам", 2-3 ед.: laid down 1906, Displacement: 3 324 t light; 3 483 t standard; 3 645 t normal; 3 774 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (399,24 ft / 383,86 ft) x 45,93 ft x (12,14 / 12,48 ft) (121,69 m / 117,00 m) x 14,00 m x (3,70 / 3,80 m) Armament: 6 - 7,48" / 190 mm 42,0 cal guns - 202,94lbs / 92,05kg shells, 120 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1906 Model 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 6 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 8,85lbs / 4,01kg shells, 180 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1906 Model 6 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 1 271 lbs / 576 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m torpedoes - 0,728 t each, 2,912 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 1,73" / 44 mm 252,62 ft / 77,00 m 7,87 ft / 2,40 m Ends: 0,87" / 22 mm 108,27 ft / 33,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 22,97 ft / 7,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 101% of normal length Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 2,60" / 66 mm 0,87" / 22 mm 3,46" / 88 mm 2nd: 0,35" / 9 mm - - - Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 1,30" / 33 mm Forecastle: 0,71" / 18 mm Quarter deck: 0,87" / 22 mm - Conning towers: Forward 1,73" / 44 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 23 311 shp / 17 390 Kw = 26,00 kts Range 1 200nm at 13,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 291 tons (33% coal) Complement: 233 - 304 Cost: £0,428 million / $1,714 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 336 tons, 9,2% - Guns: 330 tons, 9,1% - Weapons: 6 tons, 0,2% Armour: 641 tons, 17,6% - Belts: 179 tons, 4,9% - Armament: 155 tons, 4,2% - Armour Deck: 299 tons, 8,2% - Conning Tower: 9 tons, 0,2% Machinery: 1 448 tons, 39,7% Hull, fittings & equipment: 898 tons, 24,6% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 321 tons, 8,8% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 1 448 lbs / 657 Kg = 6,9 x 7,5 " / 190 mm shells or 0,9 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,29 Metacentric height 2,5 ft / 0,8 m Roll period: 12,3 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 52 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,64 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,04 Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a normal bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,596 / 0,600 Length to Beam Ratio: 8,36 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 21,07 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 21,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m - Forward deck: 28,00%, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Aft deck: 40,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Average freeboard: 16,28 ft / 4,96 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 155,8% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 163,1% Waterplane Area: 13 172 Square feet or 1 224 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 76% Structure weight / hull surface area: 55 lbs/sq ft or 268 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,61 - Longitudinal: 1,24 - Overall: 0,65 Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room

von Echenbach: Вот почти то, что могло бы быть в основе проектов как десантных кораблей/минных заградителей/крейсеров-Тр обеспечения или даже, при доработке проектов напильником послезнания - авиатранспорты/авиакрейсера (легкие (?) авианосцы/. https://sidorenko-vl.livejournal.com/51640.html?view=comments#comments

von Echenbach: аи проект ткр "Карл": 5500т, 28 уз, 4х2 190, 8х1 66, 2х2 та, 80 мм борт, 25 мм палуба. laid down 1911, Displacement: 4 972 t light; 5 195 t standard; 5 466 t normal; 5 682 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (460,38 ft / 446,19 ft) x 51,18 ft x (17,06 / 17,55 ft) (140,32 m / 136,00 m) x 15,60 m x (5,20 / 5,35 m) Armament: 8 - 7,48" / 190 mm 42,0 cal guns - 202,94lbs / 92,05kg shells, 120 per gun Quick firing guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1911 Model 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount aft - superfiring 8 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 8,85lbs / 4,01kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1911 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward Weight of broadside 1 694 lbs / 769 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m torpedoes - 0,775 t each, 3,098 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 3,15" / 80 mm 321,52 ft / 98,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Ends: 0,79" / 20 mm 104,99 ft / 32,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 19,69 ft / 6,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 111% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 3,15" / 80 mm 1,18" / 30 mm 3,15" / 80 mm 2nd: 0,31" / 8 mm - - - Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 1,10" / 28 mm Forecastle: 0,71" / 18 mm Quarter deck: 0,87" / 22 mm - Conning towers: Forward 3,15" / 80 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 3 shafts, 35 447 shp / 26 443 Kw = 28,00 kts Range 2 400nm at 13,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 487 tons Complement: 317 - 413 Cost: £0,521 million / $2,085 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 446 tons, 8,2% - Guns: 440 tons, 8,1% - Weapons: 6 tons, 0,1% Armour: 924 tons, 16,9% - Belts: 370 tons, 6,8% - Armament: 231 tons, 4,2% - Armour Deck: 302 tons, 5,5% - Conning Tower: 21 tons, 0,4% Machinery: 1 439 tons, 26,3% Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 163 tons, 39,6% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 494 tons, 9,0% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 5 477 lbs / 2 484 Kg = 26,2 x 7,5 " / 190 mm shells or 1,8 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,10 Metacentric height 2,2 ft / 0,7 m Roll period: 14,5 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 53 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,74 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,06 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,491 / 0,496 Length to Beam Ratio: 8,72 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 22,82 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 17,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 19,00%, 24,93 ft / 7,60 m, 19,03 ft / 5,80 m - Forward deck: 26,00%, 19,03 ft / 5,80 m, 19,03 ft / 5,80 m - Aft deck: 41,00%, 14,44 ft / 4,40 m, 14,44 ft / 4,40 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 14,44 ft / 4,40 m, 17,72 ft / 5,40 m - Average freeboard: 17,18 ft / 5,24 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 110,0% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 148,1% Waterplane Area: 15 452 Square feet or 1 436 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105% Structure weight / hull surface area: 99 lbs/sq ft or 483 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,97 - Longitudinal: 1,93 - Overall: 1,04 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room

von Echenbach: Продолжая тему "автожиров-вертолётов-бипланов". Предполагаю, что автожиры опоздали в ри, несмотря на модное увлечение моделями в конце 19-начале 20 вв. Далее эту нишу заняли вертолёты... Итак, версия аи, что-то предлагал ранее: 1. лёгкий автожир: 2 малых мотора по 60-120 лс - тянущий\или толкающий, короткокрылый биплан, горизонтальный винт сдвоенный, взаимно противоположного вращения, складной (лопасти или винты -? Исходя из прочностных характеристик), до 2,5-3 т, 60-90 км\ч, 2-3 часа, 300 кг; 2. тяжелый автожир: 3 мотора по 90-180 лс - 2 тянущих\или толкающих, короткокрылый биплан, горизонтальный винт сдвоенный, взаимно противоположного вращения, складной (лопасти или винты -? Исходя из прочностных характеристик), до 3-5 т, 60-120 км\ч, 2-4 часа, 800 кг. И вариации... На аи крейсер эскорта-снабжения\авиакрейсер можно до 26-44 шт. поместить. Для 1914 г. неплохо. + 3-6 обычных ЛетАппаратовЪ.

von Echenbach: Возможно ли, и с каким эффектом будет проходить "инициированная"-спровоцированная аи-"гонка вооружений "больших пушек"/ аналог "дредноутная лихорадка"? Допустим Австро-Венгрия и Германия начнут строить аи-дредноуты с прогрессирующими показателями - скорость, защита и, особенно,- артиллерия: 1905-06 11", 1907 12", 1908 14", 1909 16", 1910 18" главный калибр. И почти одновременно начнут продавать стрнам третьего-четвёртого уровня / Китай, Перу, Бразилия, Греция, Испания, Сиам и т.п./ более старые версии дредноутов (кстати, заранее имеющие упрощения конструкций для "удешевления") по так сказать, демпинговым ценам или по льготному кредитованию.

von Echenbach: 2 шт, Сент-Иштван и Принц Евгений: 3х3 406/42, 12 120/45, 25-24 уз, 22-23 000 т, laid down 1912, Displacement: 20 010 t light; 21 600 t standard; 22 059 t normal; 22 427 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (645,52 ft / 626,64 ft) x 91,86 ft x (22,97 / 23,28 ft) (196,75 m / 191,00 m) x 28,00 m x (7,00 / 7,09 m) Armament: 9 - 15,98" / 406 mm 42,0 cal guns - 1 980,10lbs / 898,16kg shells, 110 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1912 Model 1 x 3-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount aft - superfiring 12 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 53,17lbs / 24,12kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1912 Model 12 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread 12 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas 8 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 8,85lbs / 4,01kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1912 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 18 530 lbs / 8 405 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 11,0" / 280 mm 406,82 ft / 124,00 m 8,86 ft / 2,70 m Ends: 4,72" / 120 mm 183,73 ft / 56,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 36,09 ft / 11,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 100% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 12,6" / 320 mm 4,72" / 120 mm 12,6" / 320 mm 2nd: 1,18" / 30 mm 0,39" / 10 mm - 3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - - - Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 1,42" / 36 mm Forecastle: 0,94" / 24 mm Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm - Conning towers: Forward 8,66" / 220 mm, Aft 2,36" / 60 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 55 544 shp / 41 435 Kw = 25,00 kts Range 1 600nm at 13,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 827 tons Complement: 904 - 1 176 Cost: £2,595 million / $10,379 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 3 415 tons, 15,5% - Guns: 3 415 tons, 15,5% Armour: 5 429 tons, 24,6% - Belts: 2 034 tons, 9,2% - Armament: 2 159 tons, 9,8% - Armour Deck: 1 049 tons, 4,8% - Conning Towers: 187 tons, 0,8% Machinery: 2 215 tons, 10,0% Hull, fittings & equipment: 8 952 tons, 40,6% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 049 tons, 9,3% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 19 686 lbs / 8 929 Kg = 9,6 x 16,0 " / 406 mm shells or 2,5 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,13 Metacentric height 5,5 ft / 1,7 m Roll period: 16,4 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,98 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,00 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a straight bulbous bow and a round stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,584 / 0,586 Length to Beam Ratio: 6,82 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 25,03 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 49 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19,00 degrees Stern overhang: 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Forward deck: 44,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Aft deck: 22,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 16,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Average freeboard: 17,66 ft / 5,38 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 97,9% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 152,9% Waterplane Area: 41 477 Square feet or 3 853 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 88% Structure weight / hull surface area: 193 lbs/sq ft or 942 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,82 - Longitudinal: 1,23 - Overall: 0,85 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room 20 380/45 произведено к 1913 г, 18 передано Германии. 2, Тегетгофф, Вирибус Унитис: 1910, 16-18 000т, 25 уз, 3х3 305/45, 10 120/45, борт 260 + 2 для Испании, 2 для Китая; 2, Радецкий, Зрини: 1908, 13-12 000 т, 23-24 уз, 3х2 305/45, 8 120/45, борт 260 + 2 для Испании, 1 для Перу, 1 для Греции, 2 для Турции; 2, Мария-Терезия, Кайзер Франц-Иосиф: 1908, 8 000 т, 22-24 уз, 2х3 240/45, 8 120/45, борт 180; 2, Вена, Будапешт: 1906, 6000 т, 22 уз, 3х2 240/45, 8 120/45, борт 180 + 2 для Испании, 2 для Китая 1, Сент-Георг: 1909, 11 000 т, 26 уз, 3х3 190/44, 8 100/47, борт 120. PS:Испр 3х3 240/45, laid down 1909, Displacement: 10 183 t light; 10 676 t standard; 11 048 t normal; 11 346 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (646,23 ft / 626,64 ft) x 68,90 ft x (16,40 / 16,74 ft) (196,97 m / 191,00 m) x 21,00 m x (5,00 / 5,10 m) Armament: 9 - 9,45" / 240 mm 45,0 cal guns - 425,39lbs / 192,95kg shells, 110 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1909 Model 1 x 3-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount aft - superfiring 8 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 53,17lbs / 24,12kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1909 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread 8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas 4 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 8,85lbs / 4,01kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1909 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 4 289 lbs / 1 946 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m torpedoes - 0,767 t each, 3,066 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 5,51" / 140 mm 337,93 ft / 103,00 m 8,86 ft / 2,70 m Ends: 1,57" / 40 mm 206,69 ft / 63,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 82,02 ft / 25,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 83% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 7,09" / 180 mm 3,94" / 100 mm 7,09" / 180 mm 2nd: 0,79" / 20 mm 0,35" / 9 mm - 3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - - - Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 1,34" / 34 mm Forecastle: 0,87" / 22 mm Quarter deck: 1,10" / 28 mm - Conning towers: Forward 4,72" / 120 mm, Aft 2,36" / 60 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 38 304 shp / 28 575 Kw = 26,00 kts Range 1 800nm at 13,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 670 tons Complement: 538 - 700 Cost: £0,980 million / $3,922 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 1 152 tons, 10,4% - Guns: 1 146 tons, 10,4% - Weapons: 6 tons, 0,1% Armour: 2 255 tons, 20,4% - Belts: 829 tons, 7,5% - Armament: 619 tons, 5,6% - Armour Deck: 731 tons, 6,6% - Conning Towers: 76 tons, 0,7% Machinery: 1 741 tons, 15,8% Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 035 tons, 45,6% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 866 tons, 7,8% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 15 758 lbs / 7 148 Kg = 37,4 x 9,4 " / 240 mm shells or 3,7 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,18 Metacentric height 3,9 ft / 1,2 m Roll period: 14,7 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 54 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,55 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,08 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,546 / 0,549 Length to Beam Ratio: 9,10 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 26,89 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 23,00 degrees Stern overhang: 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 19,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Forward deck: 46,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Aft deck: 19,00%, 11,48 ft / 3,50 m, 11,48 ft / 3,50 m - Quarter deck: 16,00%, 11,48 ft / 3,50 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Average freeboard: 15,31 ft / 4,67 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 82,9% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 161,6% Waterplane Area: 30 756 Square feet or 2 857 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 118% Structure weight / hull surface area: 141 lbs/sq ft or 688 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,12 - Longitudinal: 0,96 - Overall: 1,00 Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Очередная версия линейных сил аиА-В.

von Echenbach: аи-зеркало для итальянцев: Австро-венгры проанализировали развитие и возможное применение ДВС. Последней пылинкой, запустившей лавину, становится доклад атташе в Лондоне о гонках моторных катеров. Вспоминается "Фудр"... и строятся три (3) быстроходных минных заградителя с возможностью перевозить 8 моторных катеров (19м, 27-30т, 4 380-мм торпеды, 21-23 уз) в версиях: 1)погрузка по слипу через кормовой лац-порт; 2)перевозка на верхней палубе и, 3)погрузка через большие люки верхней палубы /краны или... лифты?/ аи мз Метеор: laid down 1911, Displacement: 2 792 t light; 2 868 t standard; 3 013 t normal; 3 129 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (418,92 ft / 403,54 ft) x 45,93 ft x (9,84 / 10,15 ft) (127,69 m / 123,00 m) x 14,00 m x (3,00 / 3,09 m) Armament: 6 - 3,94" / 100,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,77lbs / 13,96kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1911 Model 6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread 4 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1,56lbs / 0,71kg shells, 150 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1911 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward 2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck aft Weight of broadside 191 lbs / 87 kg Main Torpedoes 8 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m torpedoes - 0,775 t each, 6,196 t total In 4 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 0,87" / 22 mm 275,59 ft / 84,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: Unarmoured Main Belt covers 105% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,24" / 6 mm - - - Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 0,71" / 18 mm - Conning towers: Forward 0,71" / 18 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 21 965 shp / 16 386 Kw = 26,00 kts Range 1 800nm at 13,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 260 tons Complement: 203 - 264 Cost: £0,232 million / $0,927 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 48 tons, 1,6% - Guns: 35 tons, 1,2% - Weapons: 12 tons, 0,4% Armour: 254 tons, 8,4% - Belts: 97 tons, 3,2% - Armament: 3 tons, 0,1% - Armour Deck: 151 tons, 5,0% - Conning Tower: 3 tons, 0,1% Machinery: 891 tons, 29,6% Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 199 tons, 39,8% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 221 tons, 7,3% Miscellaneous weights: 400 tons, 13,3% - Hull below water: 100 tons - Hull above water: 50 tons - On freeboard deck: 250 tons Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 4 613 lbs / 2 092 Kg = 151,2 x 3,9 " / 100 mm shells or 1,7 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,26 Metacentric height 2,4 ft / 0,7 m Roll period: 12,6 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 69 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,06 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,38 Hull form characteristics: Hull has raised forecastle, raised quarterdeck , a normal bow and a round stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,578 / 0,582 Length to Beam Ratio: 8,79 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 20,09 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 21,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 17,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Forward deck: 35,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Aft deck: 36,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Quarter deck: 12,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Average freeboard: 17,58 ft / 5,36 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 104,9% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 200,6% Waterplane Area: 13 280 Square feet or 1 234 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 119% Structure weight / hull surface area: 58 lbs/sq ft or 284 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,91 - Longitudinal: 1,91 - Overall: 0,98 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily Warning: Wrong mount for rapid fire gun - 2nd Battery "Стандартные" турбины на 12000 лс (3-6-12-18 000) и ДВС 120-180-240 лс. аи ТКА А-В: проект требует доработки; laid down 1913, Displacement: 27 t light; 27 t standard; 28 t normal; 28 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (68,83 ft / 62,34 ft) x 13,12 ft x (2,30 / 2,32 ft) (20,98 m / 19,00 m) x 4,00 m x (0,70 / 0,71 m) Armament: 1 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 45,0 cal gun - 1,56lbs / 0,71kg shells, 90 per gun Auto rapid fire gun in deck mount, 1913 Model 1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck aft Weight of broadside 2 lbs / 1 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 15,0" / 380 mm, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m torpedoes - 0,486 t each, 1,944 t total In 4 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes Armour: - Conning towers: Forward 0,28" / 7 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Petrol Internal combustion motors, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 1 487 shp / 1 109 Kw = 21,00 kts Range 70nm at 11,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 1 tons Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery Complement: 5 - 7 Cost: £0,004 million / $0,015 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 3 tons, 10,6% - Guns: 1 tons, 1,9% - Weapons: 2 tons, 8,7% Armour: 0 tons, 0,2% - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0,2% Machinery: 16 tons, 58,9% Hull, fittings & equipment: 7 tons, 26,0% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 tons, 4,4% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 9 lbs / 4 Kg = 5,6 x 1,5 " / 37 mm shells or 0,1 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 2,37 Metacentric height 0,9 ft / 0,3 m Roll period: 5,8 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 4 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,01 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 0,01 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,519 / 0,521 Length to Beam Ratio: 4,75 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 9,63 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 88 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 37,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 4,27 ft / 1,30 m, 3,28 ft / 1,00 m - Forward deck: 48,00%, 3,28 ft / 1,00 m, 3,28 ft / 1,00 m - Aft deck: 17,00%, 1,97 ft / 0,60 m, 1,97 ft / 0,60 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 1,97 ft / 0,60 m, 3,28 ft / 1,00 m - Average freeboard: 3,04 ft / 0,93 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 193,4% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 57,3% Waterplane Area: 577 Square feet or 54 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 24% Structure weight / hull surface area: 11 lbs/sq ft or 51 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,49 - Longitudinal: 1,69 - Overall: 0,55 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Cramped accommodation and workspace room Ship has quick, lively roll, not a steady gun platform Caution: Lacks seaworthiness - very limited seakeeping ability Warning: Wrong mount for rapid fire gun - Main Battery

Инженер Сидоров: von Echenbach пишет: в версиях: 1)погрузка по слипу через кормовой лацпорт; 2)перевозка на верхней палубе и, 3)погрузка через большие люки верхней палубы /краны или... лифты?/ Док-камера с кормовым лацпортом не рассматривается (предвосхищая появление десантно-высадочных доковых судов)? Да, водоизмещение конечно вырастет (масса воды в док-камере что-то весит), но работа с катерами существенно упростится - кроме осушительных насосов (можно даже использовать штатные) и гидравлики лацпорта, никаких иных механизмов не требуется.

von Echenbach: аи супер-Юбари для австро-венгров аи-Зента: как "отдельный противоминный калибр" при линкоре и как лг.крейсер-разведчик laid down 1911, Displacement: 3 770 t light; 3 934 t standard; 4 114 t normal; 4 258 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (506,12 ft / 485,56 ft) x 52,49 ft x (11,48 / 11,77 ft) (154,26 m / 148,00 m) x 16,00 m x (3,50 / 3,59 m) Armament: 9 - 5,51" / 140 mm 45,0 cal guns - 84,44lbs / 38,30kg shells, 180 per gun Quick firing guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1911 Model 1 x 3-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount aft - superfiring 8 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 8,85lbs / 4,01kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1911 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 831 lbs / 377 kg Main Torpedoes 6 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m torpedoes - 0,844 t each, 5,062 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 1,57" / 40 mm 314,96 ft / 96,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Ends: Unarmoured Main Belt covers 100% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 3,54" / 90 mm 1,18" / 30 mm 3,54" / 90 mm 2nd: 0,28" / 7 mm - - - Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 0,94" / 24 mm Forecastle: 0,71" / 18 mm Quarter deck: 0,94" / 24 mm - Conning towers: Forward 1,57" / 40 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 3 shafts, 25 394 shp / 18 944 Kw = 27,00 kts Range 1 800nm at 13,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 323 tons Complement: 256 - 333 Cost: £0,352 million / $1,408 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 242 tons, 5,9% - Guns: 232 tons, 5,6% - Weapons: 10 tons, 0,2% Armour: 619 tons, 15,1% - Belts: 168 tons, 4,1% - Armament: 144 tons, 3,5% - Armour Deck: 298 tons, 7,2% - Conning Tower: 9 tons, 0,2% Machinery: 1 031 tons, 25,1% Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 878 tons, 45,7% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 344 tons, 8,4% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 6 305 lbs / 2 860 Kg = 75,3 x 5,5 " / 140 mm shells or 1,9 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,24 Metacentric height 2,8 ft / 0,9 m Roll period: 13,2 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 54 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,32 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,07 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,492 / 0,497 Length to Beam Ratio: 9,25 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 23,74 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25,00 degrees Stern overhang: 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 19,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 15,42 ft / 4,70 m - Forward deck: 54,00%, 15,42 ft / 4,70 m, 15,42 ft / 4,70 m - Aft deck: 14,00%, 10,83 ft / 3,30 m, 10,83 ft / 3,30 m - Quarter deck: 13,00%, 10,83 ft / 3,30 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Average freeboard: 15,01 ft / 4,57 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 99,1% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 182,4% Waterplane Area: 17 261 Square feet or 1 604 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 121% Structure weight / hull surface area: 84 lbs/sq ft or 410 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,99 - Longitudinal: 1,12 - Overall: 1,00 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room аи 140/45 (140/47) 12 выстр/мин, 42 кг снаряд. Аи Боевой отряд (версия): 1 ЛК, 1 ЛгКр, 1 лгГидро-авиа-транспорт (гидрокрейсер - 8х1 140, 12 66, 9-12 гидросамолётов, 4-6 лг. автожиров), 1 транспорт/танкер-крейсер снабжения, 1 скаут, 3 ЭМ, 6 МН, 1 буксир-спасатель. Инженер Сидоров пишет: Док-камера с кормовым лацпортом Хорошая идея.+ М.б. для "десантных" паромов. Однако планирую переоборудование в гидрокрейсер или ЛгАВ.

von Echenbach: аи скаут по мотивам Юбари. аи Гельголанд: laid down 1912, Displacement: 2 796 t light; 2 904 t standard; 3 004 t normal; 3 083 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (461,18 ft / 442,91 ft) x 45,93 ft x (9,84 / 10,04 ft) (140,57 m / 135,00 m) x 14,00 m x (3,00 / 3,06 m) Armament: 6 - 5,51" / 140 mm 45,0 cal guns - 84,44lbs / 38,30kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1912 Model 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount aft - superfiring 8 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 8,85lbs / 4,01kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1912 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 577 lbs / 262 kg Main Torpedoes 6 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m torpedoes - 0,848 t each, 5,086 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 1,18" / 30 mm 360,89 ft / 110,00 m 7,87 ft / 2,40 m Ends: Unarmoured Main Belt covers 125% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,94" / 24 mm 0,71" / 18 mm 2,36" / 60 mm 2nd: 0,28" / 7 mm - - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 1,02" / 26 mm Forecastle: 0,71" / 18 mm Quarter deck: 0,87" / 22 mm - Conning towers: Forward 1,18" / 30 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 3 shafts, 25 330 shp / 18 897 Kw = 28,00 kts Range 1 200nm at 13,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 179 tons Complement: 202 - 263 Cost: £0,291 million / $1,164 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 169 tons, 5,6% - Guns: 159 tons, 5,3% - Weapons: 10 tons, 0,3% Armour: 479 tons, 16,0% - Belts: 134 tons, 4,5% - Armament: 79 tons, 2,6% - Armour Deck: 262 tons, 8,7% - Conning Tower: 5 tons, 0,2% Machinery: 1 010 tons, 33,6% Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 137 tons, 37,9% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 208 tons, 6,9% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 2 590 lbs / 1 175 Kg = 30,9 x 5,5 " / 140 mm shells or 1,1 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,24 Metacentric height 2,3 ft / 0,7 m Roll period: 12,7 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 52 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,37 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,05 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,525 / 0,528 Length to Beam Ratio: 9,64 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 22,58 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 27,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Forward deck: 50,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Aft deck: 19,00%, 12,14 ft / 3,70 m, 12,14 ft / 3,70 m - Quarter deck: 13,00%, 12,14 ft / 3,70 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Average freeboard: 15,79 ft / 4,81 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 125,1% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 199,3% Waterplane Area: 14 207 Square feet or 1 320 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 100% Structure weight / hull surface area: 59 lbs/sq ft or 289 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,76 - Longitudinal: 1,10 - Overall: 0,79 Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room

von Echenbach: аи Кустоза, Авиакрейсер: 4200 т, 26 уз, 2 ТЗЭУ + электро, бр 12-30, 8 100, 12 66, 4 37-мм. 12-34 аппарата + 4-8 Автожиров. 2 ангарных палубы: нижняя – 12 сложенных и 4 готовых + 2 лифта; верхняя – 8 готовых и 4 АЖ, + 4 параллелограмных подъёмника (обслуживание на спонсонах у подъёмников) за казематами, вентиляционные просветы со шторами. Полётная палуба встроена в нос и корму, 30-м носовая катапульта с комбинированной пневмо-паровой тележкой – верхняя часть (каркасное ложе для самолёта) отделяется, 20 секундный операционный цикл. До 4-6 т. 8-10 самолётов. Можно запускать двухмоторные самолёты. Трубы и складные мачты вынесены в бортовые спонсоны, как и казематы 100-мм ГК. laid down 1912, Displacement: 3 976 t light; 4 091 t standard; 4 286 t normal; 4 441 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (516,89 ft / 498,69 ft) x 52,49 ft x (11,48 / 11,79 ft) (157,55 m / 152,00 m) x 16,00 m x (3,50 / 3,59 m) Armament: 8 - 3,94" / 100,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,77lbs / 13,96kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1912 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward 4 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas 4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft 4 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas 12 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 8,85lbs / 4,01kg shells, 150 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1912 Model 12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread Weight of broadside 352 lbs / 160 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 1,26" / 32 mm 278,87 ft / 85,00 m 7,87 ft / 2,40 m Ends: 0,71" / 18 mm 180,45 ft / 55,00 m 7,87 ft / 2,40 m 39,37 ft / 12,00 m Unarmoured ends Upper: 0,71" / 18 mm 446,19 ft / 136,00 m 7,87 ft / 2,40 m Main Belt covers 86% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,71" / 18 mm 0,35" / 9 mm - 2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - - - Protected deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 1,57" / 40 mm Forecastle: 0,71" / 18 mm Quarter deck: 0,87" / 22 mm - Conning towers: Forward 1,18" / 30 mm, Aft 0,47" / 12 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Electric cruising motors plus geared drives, 2 shafts, 22 426 shp / 16 730 Kw = 26,00 kts Range 2 000nm at 13,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 350 tons Complement: 264 - 344 Cost: £0,282 million / $1,127 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 67 tons, 1,6% - Guns: 67 tons, 1,6% Armour: 756 tons, 17,6% - Belts: 252 tons, 5,9% - Armament: 19 tons, 0,4% - Armour Deck: 476 tons, 11,1% - Conning Towers: 9 tons, 0,2% Machinery: 894 tons, 20,9% Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 710 tons, 39,9% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 310 tons, 7,2% Miscellaneous weights: 550 tons, 12,8% - Hull below water: 400 tons - Hull above water: 100 tons - On freeboard deck: 40 tons - Above deck: 10 tons Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 8 659 lbs / 3 928 Kg = 283,8 x 3,9 " / 100 mm shells or 1,5 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,36 Metacentric height 3,3 ft / 1,0 m Roll period: 12,2 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 69 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,05 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,39 Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a normal bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,499 / 0,504 Length to Beam Ratio: 9,50 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 24,02 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 23,00 degrees Stern overhang: 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Aft deck: 35,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 15,75 ft / 4,80 m - Average freeboard: 16,62 ft / 5,07 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 85,1% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 211,2% Waterplane Area: 17 843 Square feet or 1 658 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 131% Structure weight / hull surface area: 69 lbs/sq ft or 336 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,00 - Longitudinal: 1,07 - Overall: 1,00 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

von Echenbach: Океанский кр-тр снабжения Аи-Дунай/или Памир. Экспериментальный тип. Смешанные топливные котлы, 25% нефть (2 из 8 котлов). Четыре конструктивных килеподобных конструкции. Тройное дно, в котором боковые тоннели с валами винтов, в центральном – трубопроводы, дублирующие электрокабели и рулевая система. Экспериментальная система смещённых редукторов для гребных валов от размещённых в центральных отсеках паровых машин с возможностью разворота\зеркала ПМ и редукторов в промежуточном, между машинами, «редукционном» блоке отсеков. Возможные «+»: улучшение защиты, укорочение трубопроводов для пара при размещении котлов в бортовых отсеках (рядом с машинами), равные длины гребных валов с +- горизонтальной линией проводки. Облегчение обслуживания, в т.ч. подачи топлива, или ускорение внедрения электродвигателей. laid down 1904, Displacement: 5 669 t light; 5 828 t standard; 6 056 t normal; 6 238 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (515,55 ft / 498,69 ft) x 52,49 ft x (13,12 / 13,45 ft) (157,14 m / 152,00 m) x 16,00 m x (4,00 / 4,10 m) Armament: 8 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 53,17lbs / 24,12kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread 4 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 8,85lbs / 4,01kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread Weight of broadside 461 lbs / 209 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m torpedoes - 0,673 t each, 2,690 t total In 4 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes Armour: - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,35" / 9 mm - - - Conning towers: Forward 1,18" / 30 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines, Direct drive, 2 shafts, 11 448 ihp / 8 540 Kw = 20,00 kts Range 1 800nm at 11,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 410 tons (75% coal) Complement: 343 - 446 Cost: £0,451 million / $1,802 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 85 tons, 1,4% - Guns: 81 tons, 1,3% - Weapons: 3 tons, 0,1% Armour: 16 tons, 0,3% - Armament: 7 tons, 0,1% - Conning Tower: 8 tons, 0,1% Machinery: 1 642 tons, 27,1% Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 996 tons, 33,0% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 387 tons, 6,4% Miscellaneous weights: 1 930 tons, 31,9% - Hull below water: 1 930 tons Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 5 534 lbs / 2 510 Kg = 105,0 x 4,7 " / 120 mm shells or 1,8 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,75 Metacentric height 4,7 ft / 1,4 m Roll period: 10,1 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 83 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,05 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,66 Hull form characteristics: Hull has raised forecastle, raised quarterdeck , a normal bow and a round stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,617 / 0,620 Length to Beam Ratio: 9,50 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 22,33 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 38 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 17,00 degrees Stern overhang: 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Aft deck: 35,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Average freeboard: 15,68 ft / 4,78 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 126,2% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 141,1% Waterplane Area: 19 452 Square feet or 1 807 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 111% Structure weight / hull surface area: 74 lbs/sq ft or 360 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,13 - Longitudinal: 0,96 - Overall: 1,00 Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

von Echenbach: Океанский «легко бронированный» аи-крейсер-рейдер «Имп. Мария-Тереза» (по мотивам реального «Санкт Георг») laid down 1906, Displacement: 4 518 t light; 4 791 t standard; 5 012 t normal; 5 189 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (513,16 ft / 498,69 ft) x 52,49 ft x (12,14 / 12,48 ft) (156,41 m / 152,00 m) x 16,00 m x (3,70 / 3,80 m) Armament: 2 - 9,45" / 240 mm 45,0 cal guns - 425,39lbs / 192,95kg shells, 140 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1906 Model 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 4 - 7,48" / 190 mm 42,0 cal guns - 202,94lbs / 92,05kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1906 Model 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount 8 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 53,17lbs / 24,12kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1906 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft 8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas 4 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 8,85lbs / 4,01kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1906 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 2 123 lbs / 963 kg Main Torpedoes 2 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m torpedoes - 0,728 t each, 1,456 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 1,18" / 30 mm 393,70 ft / 120,00 m 7,87 ft / 2,40 m Ends: Unarmoured Main Belt covers 121% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 7,09" / 180 mm 3,54" / 90 mm 7,09" / 180 mm 2nd: 4,72" / 120 mm 1,57" / 40 mm 3,54" / 90 mm 3rd: 0,98" / 25 mm 0,35" / 9 mm - - Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 1,10" / 28 mm Forecastle: 0,71" / 18 mm Quarter deck: 0,94" / 24 mm - Conning towers: Forward 3,54" / 90 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Direct drive, 3 shafts, 19 798 shp / 14 769 Kw = 24,00 kts Range 1 800nm at 11,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 398 tons (66% coal) Complement: 297 - 387 Cost: £0,523 million / $2,090 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 533 tons, 10,6% - Guns: 530 tons, 10,6% - Weapons: 3 tons, 0,1% Armour: 880 tons, 17,6% - Belts: 147 tons, 2,9% - Armament: 349 tons, 7,0% - Armour Deck: 361 tons, 7,2% - Conning Tower: 22 tons, 0,4% Machinery: 1 368 tons, 27,3% Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 738 tons, 34,7% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 493 tons, 9,8% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 3 787 lbs / 1 718 Kg = 9,0 x 9,4 " / 240 mm shells or 1,6 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,19 Metacentric height 2,6 ft / 0,8 m Roll period: 13,6 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 62 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,83 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,44 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, raised quarterdeck , a normal bow and a round stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,552 / 0,556 Length to Beam Ratio: 9,50 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 22,33 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 43 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m - Forward deck: 48,00%, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m - Aft deck: 20,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Average freeboard: 17,19 ft / 5,24 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 120,8% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 192,4% Waterplane Area: 18 304 Square feet or 1 700 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95% Structure weight / hull surface area: 77 lbs/sq ft or 375 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,72 - Longitudinal: 0,99 - Overall: 0,74 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

von Echenbach: Немного по организации аи-АВ флота (обсуждаемо): Сетевое развёртывание и взаимодействие групп, дивизионов/дивизий и отрядов. Флотилии и бригады - как термины, более задействованы относительно Дуная и береговой обороны. Корабль управления: ТТХ, как и собственно организация связи - ??? В т.ч. передача и получение информации, сравнительная эффективность флагов, радио, оптики (прожектора и дымо-ракеты)? Некое сочетание крейсер-яхта-транспорт?



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