Малые корабли альтерн. ВМФ СССР (продолжение)

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Малые корабли альтерн. ВМФ СССР (продолжение)

von Echenbach: Появилась идея поиграть с малыми кораблями, как в СССР, так и др. стран. К малым кораблям можно отнести, вероятно, от КЛ и ниже: КЛ, Дес. корабли, ТЩ, малые (?) МЗ, БРКА, СКА, ТКА, КТЩ и м.б. малые - до 150-200 т, ПЛ. В проектах и ТТЗ можно применять послезнание, но в комплектации - опираться на реально имевшиеся технологические возможности.

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von Echenbach: "Сделай сам: порт-база-причал". Конструктор сборный модульный Принцип "лего". Десантный - передовой, маневренный порт-база модульный. Элементы-модули: сборные железные, деревянные и бетонные. причалы-паромы с буксирами-толкачами.

von Echenbach: Улучшенные версии малых десантных - легких КЛ - РТЩ: laid down 1932 Displacement: 246 t light; 260 t standard; 265 t normal; 270 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (162,50 ft / 154,20 ft) x 22,97 ft x (4,92 / 4,98 ft) (49,53 m / 47,00 m) x 7,00 m x (1,50 / 1,52 m) Armament: 3 - 3,94" / 100,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,77lbs / 13,96kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model 3 x Single mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread 4 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1,56lbs / 0,71kg shells, 350 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, aft evenly spread Weight of broadside 99 lbs / 45 kg Main DC/AS Mortars 2 - 121,25 lbs / 55,00 kg Depth Charges + 8 reloads - 0,541 t total in Stern depth charge racks Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 0,47" / 12 mm 88,58 ft / 27,00 m 5,25 ft / 1,60 m Ends: Unarmoured Main Belt covers 88% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,47" / 12 mm 0,31" / 8 mm - 2nd: 0,31" / 8 mm 0,24" / 6 mm - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 0,47" / 12 mm - Conning towers: Forward 0,00" / 0 mm, Aft 0,47" / 12 mm Machinery: Diesel Internal combustion motors, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 586 shp / 437 Kw = 13,00 kts Range 800nm at 9,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 10 tons Complement: 32 - 42 Cost: £0,072 million / $0,289 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 19 tons, 7,3% - Guns: 19 tons, 7,0% - Weapons: 1 tons, 0,3% Armour: 42 tons, 15,9% - Belts: 10 tons, 3,7% - Armament: 13 tons, 4,7% - Armour Deck: 19 tons, 7,3% - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0,2% Machinery: 17 tons, 6,5% Hull, fittings & equipment: 77 tons, 29,0% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 20 tons, 7,4% Miscellaneous weights: 90 tons, 33,9% - Hull below water: 60 tons - Hull above water: 20 tons - On freeboard deck: 10 tons Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 488 lbs / 222 Kg = 16,0 x 3,9 " / 100 mm shells or 0,5 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,54 Metacentric height 1,1 ft / 0,4 m Roll period: 9,0 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,16 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,45 Hull form characteristics: Hull has raised forecastle, raised quarterdeck , a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,533 / 0,535 Length to Beam Ratio: 6,71 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 14,60 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 27,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 15,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m - Forward deck: 48,00%, 5,25 ft / 1,60 m, 5,25 ft / 1,60 m - Aft deck: 25,00%, 5,25 ft / 1,60 m, 5,25 ft / 1,60 m - Quarter deck: 12,00%, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m - Average freeboard: 6,15 ft / 1,87 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 73,5% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 79,1% Waterplane Area: 2 531 Square feet or 235 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 124% Structure weight / hull surface area: 26 lbs/sq ft or 129 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,85 - Longitudinal: 1,42 - Overall: 0,90 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space Cramped accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily 2 вариант - десантный малый корабль / МДБ-БДБ/ Легкая дес. КЛ laid down 1932 Displacement: 249 t light; 260 t standard; 265 t normal; 270 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (162,50 ft / 154,20 ft) x 22,97 ft x (4,92 / 4,98 ft) (49,53 m / 47,00 m) x 7,00 m x (1,50 / 1,52 m) Armament: 2 - 3,94" / 100,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,77lbs / 13,96kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck aft 2 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1,56lbs / 0,71kg shells, 350 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward Weight of broadside 65 lbs / 29 kg Main DC/AS Mortars 2 - 121,25 lbs / 55,00 kg Depth Charges + 8 reloads - 0,541 t total in Stern depth charge racks Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 0,47" / 12 mm 88,58 ft / 27,00 m 5,25 ft / 1,60 m Ends: Unarmoured Main Belt covers 88% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,47" / 12 mm 0,31" / 8 mm - 2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm 0,24" / 6 mm - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 0,47" / 12 mm - Conning towers: Forward 0,00" / 0 mm, Aft 0,47" / 12 mm Machinery: Diesel Internal combustion motors, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 586 shp / 437 Kw = 13,00 kts Range 800nm at 9,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 10 tons Complement: 32 - 42 Cost: £0,065 million / $0,260 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 13 tons, 4,8% - Guns: 12 tons, 4,5% - Weapons: 1 tons, 0,3% Armour: 37 tons, 13,8% - Belts: 10 tons, 3,7% - Armament: 7 tons, 2,7% - Armour Deck: 19 tons, 7,3% - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0,2% Machinery: 17 tons, 6,5% Hull, fittings & equipment: 92 tons, 34,7% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 17 tons, 6,2% Miscellaneous weights: 90 tons, 33,9% - Hull below water: 60 tons - Hull above water: 20 tons - On freeboard deck: 10 tons Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 592 lbs / 269 Kg = 19,4 x 3,9 " / 100 mm shells or 0,6 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,52 Metacentric height 1,1 ft / 0,3 m Roll period: 9,1 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,11 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,44 Hull form characteristics: Hull has raised forecastle, raised quarterdeck , a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,533 / 0,535 Length to Beam Ratio: 6,71 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 14,60 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 27,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 15,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m - Forward deck: 48,00%, 5,25 ft / 1,60 m, 5,25 ft / 1,60 m - Aft deck: 25,00%, 5,25 ft / 1,60 m, 5,25 ft / 1,60 m - Quarter deck: 12,00%, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m - Average freeboard: 6,15 ft / 1,87 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 67,0% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 79,1% Waterplane Area: 2 531 Square feet or 235 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 138% Structure weight / hull surface area: 30 lbs/sq ft or 144 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,01 - Longitudinal: 1,62 - Overall: 1,06 Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space Cramped accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

von Echenbach: По катерам. Возможные особенности при внедрении в технологию строительства: Композитные корпуса: стальной силовой набор, фанерная обшивка по технологии Люрсен-Гринпорт-ЭЛКО с заменой-усилением носовой и кормовой частей дюралем в целях облегчения конструкции. Проблема в соединении дюраль-фанера. Кто что присоветует-порекомендует-покритикует?

dr5r: На дюралевом катере плохо с поглощением вибрации -- трясёт сильней и на более высоких частотах.

von Echenbach: Стеклоткань? Ув. Абрамий давным-давно выставлял простыни технологий по временам на фаи и самлибе.

von Echenbach: Возможный аи выбор калибра СкЗА: 76 -76/45-76/45 (легче)-76/55-60 (очередное рекордное орудие с малыми перспективами). 76/45 из основы 75/50 Кане + что-то из Рейнметавлла. "+": Более легкая конструкция, большая возможная скорострельность и более легкая, в перспективе, спаренная сбалансированная /поначалу м.б. только в одной плоскости/ установка. Малые и средние дистанции - до 4500-7000 м в ПВО и противокатерном (хуже - в противоминоносном) варианте по безбронным конструкциям за счёт высокой скорострельности. "-": легкий снаряд и малая дальность действия по воззрениям 20-30-х гг. 85 - промежуточный "вообще". 100 (102)/45-55: универсал для больших кораблей, более тяжелый и "точный" снаряд для малых и средних. "-": тяжелая (?) универсальная установка. Минизини - медленная. Кстати, тема для обсуждения: англ. универсальная 102-мм, в т.ч. спаренная - успех конструкторов в системе "эксцентриков цапф" /м.б. кто просветит в чём особенность?) и её сравнение с немецкой 105-мм установкой. аи-возможная линейка: 15-30-60-90 (100)-120. При L/калибры длины/ для флота 45-55.

Инженер Сидоров: von Echenbach пишет: аи-возможная линейка: 15-30-60-90 (100)-120 25-35-50-70-100-140 (далее - 190-250-320-400-500. Последние две - как артиллерия ГК для ЛК, так и ТА).

von Echenbach: Инженер Сидоров пишет: 100-140 Под влиянием экономических факторов возможно сохранение 130-мм, НО - с обрезанием до 40 каб для облегчения устройств (как у амер. 127/38). Что не мешало строить и различные 76-90-114-133-мм реала. ГК в 500 - это что-то, скорее в качестве провоцирующего момента очередного витка гонки вооружений... Но в этом случае англы кивают на ограничения договорные. И хихикают, ибо производство уже 460-мм на грани эффективности их применения и экономичности, и следует переход к управляемым системам. 130-150-180/190. Вот, вновь сомнения.

von Echenbach: Ещё раз о аи-возможных системах РСЗО на флоте 30-40-х: Исходя из работ по РС-82/РС-130 провели работы по созданию ДАРТ (динамичная авиа-реактивная торпеда). Эволюционный путь привел к (возможному!) появлению образца ДАРТ-240 и -480. 240: 6 пусковых в установке. Масса фиксированной установки (изменение углов наведения в пределах 5 градусов) - 400-500 кг, длина снаряда - 2 м, вес - 160 (90 кг - корпус) кг, вес БЧ - 40 кг, скорость - 400 м/с. Дальность максимальная - до 9 км, реальная боевая - 5-7 км (до 30 каб), рекомендованная - до 1,8 км (10 каб). 480: 4 пусковых в установке. Масса фиксированной установки (изменение углов наведения в пределах 5 градусов) - 600-900 кг, длина снаряда - 2,4 м, вес - 220 кг (120 кг корпус), вес БЧ - 75 кг, скорость - 400 м/с. Дальность максимальная - до 12 км, реальная боевая - 7 км (до 30 каб), рекомендованная - до 2,7 км (15 каб). Среднее время полёта снаряда до цели 2-6 секунд. Старт: при горизонтальном уровне, высота полета 2-11 м, возможно вращение для повышения устойчивости на курсе. Гребни волн может проходить практически без деформаций и отклонений. Является базой для УРО. Цели: Транспорта, малые каботажные, десантные корабли и катера охранения, ТШ, МН и ЭМ, эскортные корабли.

von Echenbach: Версия Фрет-Трад / Осознательный ( ;-) ) 350-400 т, 24-25 уз, 3х2 76, 4х1 37, 1х3 та, борт 18, палуба - 12 мм. ТБ, laid down 1929 Displacement: 302 t light; 317 t standard; 333 t normal; 345 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (194,38 ft / 177,17 ft) x 22,97 ft x (6,56 / 6,72 ft) (59,25 m / 54,00 m) x 7,00 m x (2,00 / 2,05 m) Armament: 6 - 2,99" / 76,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,51lbs / 6,13kg shells, 150 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1929 Model 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 4 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1,56lbs / 0,71kg shells, 650 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1929 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 87 lbs / 40 kg Main Torpedoes 3 - 18,1" / 460 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 1,022 t each, 3,066 t total In 1 sets of deck mounted centre rotating tubes Main DC/AS Mortars 2 - 97,00 lbs / 44,00 kg Depth Charges + 18 reloads - 0,866 t total in Stern depth charge racks Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 0,71" / 18 mm 98,43 ft / 30,00 m 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Ends: Unarmoured Main Belt covers 85% of normal length Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,28" / 7 mm - - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 0,47" / 12 mm - Conning towers: Forward 0,28" / 7 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Diesel Internal combustion motors, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 4 657 shp / 3 474 Kw = 24,00 kts Range 700nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 27 tons Complement: 38 - 50 Cost: £0,133 million / $0,532 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 26 tons, 7,7% - Guns: 19 tons, 5,6% - Weapons: 7 tons, 2,2% Armour: 42 tons, 12,7% - Belts: 20 tons, 6,0% - Armament: 2 tons, 0,6% - Armour Deck: 20 tons, 6,0% - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0,1% Machinery: 130 tons, 39,1% Hull, fittings & equipment: 104 tons, 31,2% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 31 tons, 9,3% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 216 lbs / 98 Kg = 16,1 x 3,0 " / 76 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,32 Metacentric height 0,9 ft / 0,3 m Roll period: 10,1 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,25 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,01 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,436 / 0,441 Length to Beam Ratio: 7,71 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 15,66 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 71 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 33,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 15,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Forward deck: 28,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Aft deck: 43,00%, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m - Average freeboard: 10,52 ft / 3,21 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 140,6% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 111,6% Waterplane Area: 2 665 Square feet or 248 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 90% Structure weight / hull surface area: 23 lbs/sq ft or 111 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,55 - Longitudinal: 4,10 - Overall: 0,67 Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Adequate accommodation and workspace room

von Echenbach: В случае аи- принятии этапов построения промышленности/экономики (и ВС) с принципами "бережного сохранения и эволюционного развития" (см. Темы "модернизация", "большие корабли" и пр. проекты) решается вопрос о применении имеющихся 12 башен для 8"/50 орудий: 6 идут на 2 достраиваемые ТКР БО из "Светлан" (Грейг, Спиридов), а 6 - на 3 тяжелых броненосных КЛ БО, постройка которых преследует цель усилить возможности береговой обороны, но - и более важное: позволяет восстановить технологический процесс производства материалов, деталей, отладить взаимодействие смежных предприятий , работу конструкторов, инженеров и полноценно производить обучение рабочих. "Красный ПутиловецЪ" ("Кр. ИжорецЪ", "Кр. ОбуховецЪ") - laid down 1923 Displacement: 1 169 t light; 1 255 t standard; 1 281 t normal; 1 301 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (194,95 ft / 183,73 ft) x 45,93 ft x (7,55 / 7,65 ft) (59,42 m / 56,00 m) x 14,00 m x (2,30 / 2,33 m) Armament: 4 - 7,99" / 203 mm 50,0 cal guns - 270,21lbs / 122,57kg shells, 90 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1923 Model 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread 4 - 2,99" / 76,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,51lbs / 6,13kg shells, 150 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1923 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, aft evenly spread 4 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1,56lbs / 0,71kg shells, 450 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1923 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward Weight of broadside 1 141 lbs / 518 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 2,36" / 60 mm 144,36 ft / 44,00 m 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Ends: 0,79" / 20 mm 39,37 ft / 12,00 m 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Main Belt covers 121% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 7,09" / 180 mm 1,97" / 50 mm 3,15" / 80 mm 2nd: 0,71" / 18 mm 0,24" / 6 mm - 3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 1,18" / 30 mm Forecastle: 0,47" / 12 mm Quarter deck: 0,79" / 20 mm - Conning towers: Forward 0,00" / 0 mm, Aft 2,36" / 60 mm Machinery: Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines, Direct drive, 2 shafts, 1 381 ihp / 1 030 Kw = 12,00 kts Range 600nm at 9,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 46 tons (100% coal) Complement: 106 - 139 Cost: £0,518 million / $2,073 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 350 tons, 27,3% - Guns: 350 tons, 27,3% Armour: 359 tons, 28,1% - Belts: 111 tons, 8,7% - Armament: 98 tons, 7,7% - Armour Deck: 144 tons, 11,3% - Conning Tower: 6 tons, 0,5% Machinery: 153 tons, 12,0% Hull, fittings & equipment: 307 tons, 24,0% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 111 tons, 8,7% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 851 lbs / 386 Kg = 3,3 x 8,0 " / 203 mm shells or 0,5 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,56 Metacentric height 3,3 ft / 1,0 m Roll period: 10,6 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 60 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,30 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,19 Hull form characteristics: Hull has raised forecastle, raised quarterdeck , a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,704 / 0,706 Length to Beam Ratio: 4,00 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 16,43 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 21,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 12,14 ft / 3,70 m, 10,83 ft / 3,30 m - Forward deck: 44,00%, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m - Aft deck: 25,00%, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m - Quarter deck: 13,00%, 12,14 ft / 3,70 m, 12,14 ft / 3,70 m - Average freeboard: 8,15 ft / 2,48 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 118,6% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 83,6% Waterplane Area: 7 089 Square feet or 659 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 69% Structure weight / hull surface area: 63 lbs/sq ft or 309 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,66 - Longitudinal: 1,85 - Overall: 0,73 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Cramped accommodation and workspace room Также корабли могли служить базой для проведения различных конструкторско-исследовательских работ в области кораблестроения и изучения систем бронирования, проектирования и установки новых систем вооружения и комплексов двигательных установок: ВРШ, паротурбинные электрогенераторные установки и комбинации дизельных и дизель-электрических систем.

von Echenbach: Представителями "старой школы" был разработан проект "малого монитора". Предполагалось восстановить производство 305/40 с модернизированными затворами - до 4 выстрелов в минуту, и обеспечить подачу тяжелых снарядов образца аи-24 года (505 кг) с возможностью стрельбы на дистанции до 125 каб. Проект не был утверждён в связи "с отсутствием текущей необходимости". laid down 1924 1х2 305/40-45, 8 76, 4 37. палуба - 20-60, борт 90 (возможно увеличение толщины до 200)-40 мм. Паровые машины/дизель. Displacement: 2 064 t light; 2 186 t standard; 2 221 t normal; 2 249 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (237,86 ft / 223,10 ft) x 52,49 ft x (11,48 / 11,59 ft) (72,50 m / 68,00 m) x 16,00 m x (3,50 / 3,53 m) Armament: 2 - 12,01" / 305 mm 40,0 cal guns - 829,70lbs / 376,34kg shells, 70 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mount, 1924 Model 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck aft 8 - 2,99" / 76,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,51lbs / 6,13kg shells, 190 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1924 Model 4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, aft evenly spread 4 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1,56lbs / 0,71kg shells, 450 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1924 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward 2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck aft Weight of broadside 1 774 lbs / 805 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 3,54" / 90 mm 167,32 ft / 51,00 m 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Ends: 0,79" / 20 mm 52,49 ft / 16,00 m 6,56 ft / 2,00 m 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 115% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 7,09" / 180 mm 3,54" / 90 mm 7,09" / 180 mm 2nd: 0,71" / 18 mm 0,24" / 6 mm - 3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 2,36" / 60 mm Forecastle: 0,47" / 12 mm Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm - Conning towers: Forward 0,00" / 0 mm, Aft 3,54" / 90 mm Machinery: Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines, Direct drive, 2 shafts, 3 155 ihp / 2 354 Kw = 14,00 kts Range 600nm at 9,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 62 tons (100% coal) Complement: 161 - 210 Cost: £0,837 million / $3,346 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 346 tons, 15,6% - Guns: 346 tons, 15,6% Armour: 678 tons, 30,5% - Belts: 186 tons, 8,4% - Armament: 133 tons, 6,0% - Armour Deck: 346 tons, 15,6% - Conning Tower: 13 tons, 0,6% Machinery: 392 tons, 17,7% Hull, fittings & equipment: 648 tons, 29,2% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 157 tons, 7,0% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 1 488 lbs / 675 Kg = 1,7 x 12,0 " / 305 mm shells or 0,7 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,54 Metacentric height 4,0 ft / 1,2 m Roll period: 11,1 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,40 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,42 Hull form characteristics: Hull has raised forecastle, rise aft of midbreak, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,578 / 0,580 Length to Beam Ratio: 4,25 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 18,28 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 32,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 17,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 11,48 ft / 3,50 m - Forward deck: 40,00%, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m - Aft deck: 29,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Average freeboard: 10,33 ft / 3,15 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 114,6% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 96,4% Waterplane Area: 8 741 Square feet or 812 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 75% Structure weight / hull surface area: 75 lbs/sq ft or 368 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,60 - Longitudinal: 2,40 - Overall: 0,69 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Adequate accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

von Echenbach: Проект ТЩ, "основной"-"200 тонн", с паровыми машинами м.б. буксиром, мобилизуется. При дизелях ( 2х350 дальность возрастает до 1200 миль) - как проект поздней модернизации. Имеют "ледовый пояс" по ВЛ (12-мм 32х1 м). По 6 на ТВД, по 6 в базовые службы (буксиры), по 8 в службы гражданских пароходств. Всего ТЩ - 24, буксиры - 48. Постройка 1922 - 28. Версия применения в качестве ЛгКЛ БО: а) 2х2 76 или 2х1 100 мм в кормовой части и 3-5 37-мм. + 12-мм палуба над КМО. laid down 1922 Displacement: 202 t light; 210 t standard; 222 t normal; 233 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (117,46 ft / 104,99 ft) x 26,25 ft x (4,92 / 5,09 ft) (35,80 m / 32,00 m) x 8,00 m x (1,50 / 1,55 m) Armament: 2 - 2,99" / 76,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,51lbs / 6,13kg shells, 150 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1922 Model 1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck forward 1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck forward 2 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1,56lbs / 0,71kg shells, 450 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1922 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 30 lbs / 14 kg Main DC/AS Mortars 2 - 112,44 lbs / 51,00 kg Depth Charges + 8 reloads - 0,502 t total in Stern depth charge racks Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 0,47" / 12 mm 104,99 ft / 32,00 m 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Main Belt covers 154% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,35" / 9 mm - - 2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - - - Conning towers: Forward 0,47" / 12 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Diesel Internal combustion motors, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 624 ihp / 466 Kw = 12,00 kts Range 1 200nm at 9,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 23 tons Complement: 28 - 37 Cost: £0,034 million / $0,135 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 7 tons, 3,2% - Guns: 7 tons, 2,9% - Weapons: 1 tons, 0,3% Armour: 9 tons, 4,1% - Belts: 6 tons, 2,7% - Armament: 3 tons, 1,2% - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0,2% Machinery: 27 tons, 12,0% Hull, fittings & equipment: 129 tons, 58,1% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 20 tons, 9,1% Miscellaneous weights: 30 tons, 13,5% - Hull below water: 20 tons - Hull above water: 6 tons - On freeboard deck: 4 tons Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 656 lbs / 297 Kg = 48,9 x 3,0 " / 76 mm shells or 0,7 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,63 Metacentric height 1,5 ft / 0,5 m Roll period: 8,9 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 56 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,04 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,12 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,574 / 0,580 Length to Beam Ratio: 4,00 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 12,63 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 31,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 8,53 ft / 2,60 m - Forward deck: 27,00%, 8,53 ft / 2,60 m, 8,53 ft / 2,60 m - Aft deck: 41,00%, 5,58 ft / 1,70 m, 5,58 ft / 1,70 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 5,58 ft / 1,70 m, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m - Average freeboard: 7,07 ft / 2,15 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 60,1% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 94,1% Waterplane Area: 2 049 Square feet or 190 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 207% Structure weight / hull surface area: 50 lbs/sq ft or 244 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,56 - Longitudinal: 6,61 - Overall: 1,80 Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space Adequate accommodation and workspace room

von Echenbach: малые портовые, промысловые и портовые суда - на первых сериях могли устанавливать "нефтяные полудизели"/калильные ДВС ("Болиндер", "Ланц", др. в 7 - 15 - 30 - 60 л.с. Позднее, с 1926 года - карбюраторные. Число винтов - на малых - 1 (в т.ч. подвесного типа - повод к разработке движителей Фойта-Шнайдера и ВРК), более крупных - 2. Материал - большие серии - по 12 ед, на речных верфях или как побочное производство больших верфей и цехов шлюпочного производства - железо, малые верфи, по проекту - деревянные корпуса с возможным композитным набором. При "модернизации" и в ходе освоения производства материал и двигатели применяют более прогрессивного типа. 60 т, 8 уз, до 30-40 т. груза: большой портовый катер-буксир, речной каботажный катер-буксир, вспомогательный катер снабжения (версии сухогруз и танкер, водолей, углевоз, лоцманское судно-катер, учебное плавсредство) - laid down 1922 Displacement: 58 t light; 59 t standard; 60 t normal; 60 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (80,55 ft / 75,46 ft) x 13,12 ft x (2,62 / 2,64 ft) (24,55 m / 23,00 m) x 4,00 m x (0,80 / 0,80 m) Armament: 2 - 0,30" / 7,6 mm 65,0 cal guns - 0,01lbs / 0,01kg shells, 450 per gun Machine guns in deck mounts, 1922 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck aft Weight of broadside 0 lbs / 0 kg Machinery: Petrol Internal combustion motors, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 58 shp / 43 Kw = 8,30 kts Range 200nm at 6,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 1 tons Complement: 10 - 14 Cost: £0,006 million / $0,026 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 0 tons, 0,1% - Guns: 0 tons, 0,1% Machinery: 2 tons, 3,3% Hull, fittings & equipment: 16 tons, 27,0% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 tons, 2,9% Miscellaneous weights: 40 tons, 66,7% - Hull below water: 40 tons Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 127 lbs / 58 Kg = 1,2 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 2,12 Metacentric height 0,8 ft / 0,2 m Roll period: 6,3 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 78 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,00 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,57 Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,807 / 0,808 Length to Beam Ratio: 5,75 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 10,07 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 17,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 5,91 ft / 1,80 m, 4,27 ft / 1,30 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 4,27 ft / 1,30 m, 3,28 ft / 1,00 m - Aft deck: 35,00%, 3,28 ft / 1,00 m, 3,28 ft / 1,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 3,28 ft / 1,00 m, 3,28 ft / 1,00 m - Average freeboard: 3,76 ft / 1,15 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 84,1% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 60,9% Waterplane Area: 911 Square feet or 85 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 135% Structure weight / hull surface area: 14 lbs/sq ft or 68 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,92 - Longitudinal: 1,64 - Overall: 0,97 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Cramped accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather 30т, 8-9 уз, малый портовой катер, средний речной катер, городской речной катер, база речного-портового парома, мотобот, малый сейнер, лоцманский катер и т.п. laid down 1923 Displacement: 29 t light; 30 t standard; 30 t normal; 31 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (73,16 ft / 68,90 ft) x 11,48 ft x (2,62 / 2,64 ft) (22,30 m / 21,00 m) x 3,50 m x (0,80 / 0,81 m) Armament: 1 - 0,30" / 7,6 mm 45,0 cal gun - 0,01lbs / 0,01kg shells, 350 per gun Breech loading gun in deck mount, 1923 Model 1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck forward Weight of broadside 0 lbs / 0 kg Machinery: Petrol Internal combustion motors, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 58 shp / 43 Kw = 9,30 kts Range 200nm at 7,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 1 tons Complement: 6 - 8 Cost: £0,004 million / $0,015 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 0 tons, 0,1% - Guns: 0 tons, 0,1% Machinery: 2 tons, 6,4% Hull, fittings & equipment: 12 tons, 40,9% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 tons, 3,1% Miscellaneous weights: 15 tons, 49,5% - Hull below water: 15 tons Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 62 lbs / 28 Kg = 0,6 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 0,2 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,80 Metacentric height 0,5 ft / 0,2 m Roll period: 6,8 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 57 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,00 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,14 Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,511 / 0,512 Length to Beam Ratio: 6,00 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 9,89 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 13,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 4,27 ft / 1,30 m, 3,28 ft / 1,00 m - Forward deck: 25,00%, 3,28 ft / 1,00 m, 2,30 ft / 0,70 m - Aft deck: 42,00%, 2,30 ft / 0,70 m, 2,30 ft / 0,70 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 2,30 ft / 0,70 m, 3,28 ft / 1,00 m - Average freeboard: 2,74 ft / 0,84 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 75,4% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 43,6% Waterplane Area: 554 Square feet or 51 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 160% Structure weight / hull surface area: 17 lbs/sq ft or 83 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,30 - Longitudinal: 2,11 - Overall: 1,37 Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space Extremely poor accommodation and workspace room 15 т - Малый портовой - речной катер, малый мотобот или сейнер, база для десантного мотобота-понтона. laid down 1922 Displacement: 15 t light; 15 t standard; 15 t normal; 15 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (58,32 ft / 55,77 ft) x 9,84 ft x (1,64 / 1,65 ft) (17,78 m / 17,00 m) x 3,00 m x (0,50 / 0,50 m) Armament: 1 - 0,30" / 7,6 mm 45,0 cal gun - 0,01lbs / 0,01kg shells, 350 per gun Machine gun in deck mount, 1922 Model 1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck forward Weight of broadside 0 lbs / 0 kg Machinery: Petrol Internal combustion motors, Geared drive, 1 shaft, 29 shp / 22 Kw = 8,40 kts Range 60nm at 6,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 0 tons Complement: 3 - 4 Cost: £0,002 million / $0,007 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 0 tons, 0,2% - Guns: 0 tons, 0,2% Machinery: 1 tons, 6,5% Hull, fittings & equipment: 6 tons, 37,6% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 0 tons, 2,7% Miscellaneous weights: 8 tons, 53,1% - Hull below water: 8 tons Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 36 lbs / 16 Kg = 0,3 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 0,2 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 2,01 Metacentric height 0,5 ft / 0,1 m Roll period: 6,1 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,00 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,01 Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,586 / 0,587 Length to Beam Ratio: 5,67 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 8,86 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 13,00 degrees Stern overhang: 1,64 ft / 0,50 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 3,94 ft / 1,20 m, 2,62 ft / 0,80 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 2,62 ft / 0,80 m, 1,97 ft / 0,60 m - Aft deck: 37,00%, 1,97 ft / 0,60 m, 1,97 ft / 0,60 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 1,97 ft / 0,60 m, 2,62 ft / 0,80 m - Average freeboard: 2,33 ft / 0,71 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 79,9% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 55,5% Waterplane Area: 413 Square feet or 38 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 150% Structure weight / hull surface area: 11 lbs/sq ft or 54 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,07 - Longitudinal: 1,62 - Overall: 1,12 Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space Cramped accommodation and workspace room 7 т - малый катер. laid down 1923 Displacement: 7 t light; 7 t standard; 7 t normal; 7 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (31,37 ft / 29,53 ft) x 11,48 ft x (0,98 / 0,99 ft) (9,56 m / 9,00 m) x 3,50 m x (0,30 / 0,30 m) Machinery: Petrol Internal combustion motors, Geared drive, 1 shaft, 14 shp / 11 Kw = 6,30 kts Range 60nm at 4,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 0 tons Complement: 1 - 2 Cost: £0,001 million / $0,004 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 0 tons, 0,0% Machinery: 0 tons, 6,5% Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 tons, 23,2% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 0 tons, 2,6% Miscellaneous weights: 5 tons, 67,7% - Hull below water: 5 tons Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 14 lbs / 6 Kg = 0,1 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 0,1 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 4,44 Metacentric height 1,5 ft / 0,5 m Roll period: 3,9 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 31 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,00 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 0,37 Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,775 / 0,776 Length to Beam Ratio: 2,57 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 6,87 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 13,00 degrees Stern overhang: 1,31 ft / 0,40 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 17,00%, 2,30 ft / 0,70 m, 1,64 ft / 0,50 m - Forward deck: 26,00%, 1,64 ft / 0,50 m, 1,15 ft / 0,35 m - Aft deck: 43,00%, 1,15 ft / 0,35 m, 1,15 ft / 0,35 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 1,15 ft / 0,35 m, 1,64 ft / 0,50 m - Average freeboard: 1,38 ft / 0,42 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 94,8% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 71,7% Waterplane Area: 303 Square feet or 28 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 124% Structure weight / hull surface area: 6 lbs/sq ft or 27 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,64 - Longitudinal: 1,26 - Overall: 0,69 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Cramped accommodation and workspace room Caution: Lacks seaworthiness - very limited seakeeping ability На "катамаранах" - корпусах можно строить различные вспомогательные и портовые плавсредства: причалы-краны-землечерпалки-понтоны и пр. Для ВМС по 40-60 малых (15-30 т) и по 30-20 средних плавсредств (60-90-120 т). В различные отраслях нар. хоза - наверное, не менее чем по 100-200 каждого типа + покупки образцов (технологий) в других странах.

von Echenbach: Корабли и суда средних размеров для малого флота. Первые серии на паровых машинах, далее - на дизельных или паро-турбинных + электродвижение. Примерно по 2 каждого типа с различными ГЭУ и с возможностью менять вооружение (лего-модуль прообразы). КЛ БО (средняя), 700 т, 13-14 уз. Средний десантный корабль. Мобилизационный вариант - как резервный, из судов портового обслуживания или средних портовых шаланд-шхун. 3х1 130/55 или 152/45 или 3х2 100 /10 (3х2 и 4х1) 76. Борт - 20-60, палуба 20. laid down 1926 Displacement: 646 t light; 688 t standard; 702 t normal; 714 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (184,96 ft / 177,17 ft) x 29,53 ft x (6,56 / 6,65 ft) (56,38 m / 54,00 m) x 9,00 m x (2,00 / 2,03 m) Armament: 3 - 5,12" / 130 mm 55,0 cal guns - 72,36lbs / 32,82kg shells, 150 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1926 Model 3 x Single mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread 4 - 2,99" / 76,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,51lbs / 6,13kg shells, 220 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1926 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, aft evenly spread 4 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 55,0 cal guns - 1,67lbs / 0,76kg shells, 650 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1926 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward 2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck aft Weight of broadside 278 lbs / 126 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 2,36" / 60 mm 118,11 ft / 36,00 m 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Ends: 0,71" / 18 mm 59,06 ft / 18,00 m 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Main Belt covers 103% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,71" / 18 mm 0,24" / 6 mm - 2nd: 0,47" / 12 mm 0,16" / 4 mm - 3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 0,71" / 18 mm - Conning towers: Forward 0,00" / 0 mm, Aft 1,57" / 40 mm Machinery: Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines, Direct drive, 2 shafts, 1 492 ihp / 1 113 Kw = 14,00 kts Range 600nm at 9,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 26 tons (100% coal) Complement: 67 - 88 Cost: £0,179 million / $0,715 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 63 tons, 9,0% - Guns: 63 tons, 9,0% Armour: 157 tons, 22,3% - Belts: 92 tons, 13,1% - Armament: 13 tons, 1,8% - Armour Deck: 49 tons, 7,0% - Conning Tower: 3 tons, 0,4% Machinery: 94 tons, 13,4% Hull, fittings & equipment: 292 tons, 41,6% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 56 tons, 8,0% Miscellaneous weights: 40 tons, 5,7% - Hull below water: 40 tons Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 1 265 lbs / 574 Kg = 18,9 x 5,1 " / 130 mm shells or 0,8 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,47 Metacentric height 1,6 ft / 0,5 m Roll period: 9,9 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 62 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,19 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,23 Hull form characteristics: Hull has raised forecastle, raised quarterdeck , a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,716 / 0,718 Length to Beam Ratio: 6,00 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 15,49 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 17,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 12,14 ft / 3,70 m - Forward deck: 44,00%, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m - Aft deck: 25,00%, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 12,14 ft / 3,70 m, 12,14 ft / 3,70 m - Average freeboard: 8,36 ft / 2,55 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 73,5% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 82,9% Waterplane Area: 4 443 Square feet or 413 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 131% Structure weight / hull surface area: 57 lbs/sq ft or 280 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,43 - Longitudinal: 2,70 - Overall: 1,53 Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space Cramped accommodation and workspace room Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily по 10 на ТВД: 2 КЛ средних, 2 КЛ ПВО, 2 КЛ ПВО легких, с 76-мм орудиями, 4 десантных, дизельных.

dr5r: von Echenbach пишет: Позднее, с 1926 года - карбюраторные. Зачем? Калоризаторники жрут даже мазут, карбюраторные -- бензин или хотя бы керосин.

von Echenbach: dr5r пишет: Зачем? Калоризаторники жрут даже мазут, карбюраторные -- бензин или Во все проекты старался закладывать минимально возможные размеры, мощности и скорость - по собственным тактическим предположениям, с оглядкой на исторические воззрения-реальность и некоторые аспекты развития техники - послезнание. Калоризаторы - более простые в технологии, паровые ещё проще - говорят знающие люди :-). Прорисовывается аи-тенденция по моторам и материалам: относительно быстрое развитие индустрии, в т.ч. материаловедения, технологии производства металлов и моторостроения, ускоренное развитие нефтехимии. Поэтому можно производить замену двигателей, включив в проектирование стандартные узлы, меняя только собственно ДУ, и шестерни передач в редукторах с винтами. По 500-1000 моторов в год, с созданием моторо-ремонтных цехов и накоплением-восстановлением комплектов запасных частей не является чем-то непосильным/нереальным, к тому же под планируемые новые моторы малой или средней мощности. Начиная с тех-же калоризаторов Ланц или/и Болиндер, с последующим переходом на выпуск дизелей. Особенно при снижении влияния "добрых друзей-концессионеров" из-за океана и английского капитала. В СССР чрезмерно увлеклись тонно-показателями чугуна, угля и пр. Припозднились с развитием нефте- и электрохимии. И продажу нефти особо не афишировали, как и операции с зерном. Достаточно неблагоприятно - могу быть неправ - выглядит гонка с переделками моторов и их развитие мощности, даже с учётом необходимости получать опыт конструкторам и технологам.

dr5r: von Echenbach пишет: паровые ещё проще - говорят знающие люди Убился фейспалмом. Вы паровой котёл видели? А конденсатор?

von Echenbach: dr5r пишет: паровой котёл видели? А конденсатор? Видел и даже прикасался. Не более. Почему же тогда при постройке эскортных шлюпов англичане предпочли ставить паровые машины, а не калоризаторы? Как и немцы ушли с дизелей на ТЩ. М.б. вопрос доступности угля?

von Echenbach: Вот ещё версия "СКР рейдовый-прибрежный эскортный". Исходя из задания на пр. 2 в 1926 к 1930 м.б. развили в нечто эдакое: 500 т. 22 уз - 2 винта, 4000 лс (4 дизеля) и + малый с генератором аварийным, 800 миль на 11 уз, "ледовый пояс" в 12 мм, в носу - 4х2 76 с 4х1 37, к корме за срезом полубака 2х1 100, 1х2ТА (можно снять для приема тралов и т.п., как и уменьшить ГК до 1 100 - при трансформации в средний ТЩ, попутно и уменьшая число установленных дизелей). + ГБ, шумопеленгаторы и гидролокатор типа "Асдик" в версии сов.пром (если заниматься целенаправленно с середины 20-х м.б. и получится). "Аметист", laid down 1930, Displacement: 431 t light; 464 t standard; 477 t normal; 487 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (224,83 ft / 216,54 ft) x 22,97 ft x (5,91 / 6,00 ft) (68,53 m / 66,00 m) x 7,00 m x (1,80 / 1,83 m) Armament: 2 - 3,94" / 100,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,77lbs / 13,96kg shells, 150 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1930 Model 2 x Single mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 8 - 2,99" / 76,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,51lbs / 6,13kg shells, 250 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1930 Model 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread 2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck centre 4 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1,56lbs / 0,71kg shells, 850 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1930 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 176 lbs / 80 kg Main Torpedoes 3 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 0,989 t each, 2,966 t total In 1 sets of deck mounted centre rotating tubes Main DC/AS Mortars 2 - 97,00 lbs / 44,00 kg Depth Charges + 14 reloads - 0,693 t total in Stern depth charge racks Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 0,47" / 12 mm 144,36 ft / 44,00 m 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Ends: Unarmoured Main Belt covers 103% of normal length Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,47" / 12 mm - - 2nd: 0,47" / 12 mm - - 3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - - - Conning towers: Forward 0,47" / 12 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Diesel Internal combustion motors, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 4 245 shp / 3 167 Kw = 22,00 kts Range 900nm at 11,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 23 tons Complement: 50 - 66 Cost: £0,175 million / $0,701 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 43 tons, 9,0% - Guns: 36 tons, 7,5% - Weapons: 7 tons, 1,4% Armour: 28 tons, 5,9% - Belts: 19 tons, 3,9% - Armament: 9 tons, 1,9% - Conning Tower: 1 tons, 0,1% Machinery: 129 tons, 27,0% Hull, fittings & equipment: 232 tons, 48,6% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 45 tons, 9,5% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 648 lbs / 294 Kg = 21,2 x 3,9 " / 100 mm shells or 0,5 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,11 Metacentric height 0,7 ft / 0,2 m Roll period: 11,7 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 52 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,49 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,03 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,568 / 0,571 Length to Beam Ratio: 9,43 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 16,75 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 17,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 15,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 11,48 ft / 3,50 m - Forward deck: 26,00%, 11,48 ft / 3,50 m, 11,48 ft / 3,50 m - Aft deck: 45,00%, 7,87 ft / 2,40 m, 7,87 ft / 2,40 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 7,87 ft / 2,40 m, 9,19 ft / 2,80 m - Average freeboard: 9,74 ft / 2,97 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 108,4% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 112,4% Waterplane Area: 3 676 Square feet or 342 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 129% Structure weight / hull surface area: 41 lbs/sq ft or 200 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,04 - Longitudinal: 3,16 - Overall: 1,16 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Adequate accommodation and workspace room

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