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von Echenbach:
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von Echenbach: Версия аи-Рюрик-2 для Балтийского моря в качестве "истребителя крейсеров": 3х3 305/52 - начально -305/40, 3х3 152 (башни как прототипы для дредноутов). laid down 1906 Displacement: 13 381 t light; 14 261 t standard; 15 031 t normal; 15 648 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (536,08 ft / 511,81 ft) x 75,46 ft x (26,25 / 27,04 ft) (163,40 m / 156,00 m) x 23,00 m x (8,00 / 8,24 m) Armament: 6 - 12,01" / 305 mm 52,0 cal guns - 924,41lbs / 419,31kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1906 Model 2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 1 raised mount aft 9 - 5,98" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,07lbs / 49,02kg shells, 200 per gun Quick firing guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1906 Model 1 x 3-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 3-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft 8 - 2,95" / 75,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 12,98lbs / 5,89kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1906 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread Weight of broadside 6 623 lbs / 3 004 kg Main Torpedoes 6 - 18,1" / 460 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 0,897 t each, 5,379 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 7,09" / 180 mm 262,47 ft / 80,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: 4,72" / 120 mm 131,23 ft / 40,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 118,11 ft / 36,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 79% of normal length Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 7,09" / 180 mm 2,36" / 60 mm 10,2" / 260 mm 2nd: 3,54" / 90 mm 1,18" / 30 mm 4,72" / 120 mm - Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 2,52" / 64 mm Forecastle: 1,26" / 32 mm Quarter deck: 1,26" / 32 mm - Conning towers: Forward 7,09" / 180 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Direct drive, 4 shafts, 44 794 shp / 33 416 Kw = 26,00 kts Range 2 200nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 1 387 tons Complement: 678 - 882 Cost: £1,571 million / $6,284 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 1 708 tons, 11,4% - Guns: 1 697 tons, 11,3% - Weapons: 11 tons, 0,1% Armour: 3 258 tons, 21,7% - Belts: 1 061 tons, 7,1% - Armament: 939 tons, 6,2% - Armour Deck: 1 165 tons, 7,8% - Conning Tower: 93 tons, 0,6% Machinery: 2 909 tons, 19,4% Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 507 tons, 36,6% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 650 tons, 11,0% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 13 381 lbs / 6 070 Kg = 15,5 x 12,0 " / 305 mm shells or 2,6 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,11 Metacentric height 4,0 ft / 1,2 m Roll period: 15,9 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,72 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,01 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,519 / 0,524 Length to Beam Ratio: 6,78 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 26,62 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 23,00 degrees Stern overhang: 13,12 ft / 4,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 19,00%, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Aft deck: 36,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Average freeboard: 17,80 ft / 5,42 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 105,5% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 128,3% Waterplane Area: 27 242 Square feet or 2 531 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 96% Structure weight / hull surface area: 162 lbs/sq ft or 789 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,93 - Longitudinal: 2,08 - Overall: 1,01 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room
von Echenbach: Возможная предпосылка к аи-Рюрику: постройка серии БрБО т Сенявин (5000 т, 16 уз, 2х2 305/40, 7 120, 2 та, 8 47, б-120, п-40). Отказ от 254-мм. Влияние французского Анри/генри-4 с кормовыми линейно-возвышенными... laid down 1896 Displacement: 4 264 t light; 4 557 t standard; 4 802 t normal; 4 997 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (301,84 ft / 282,15 ft) x 55,77 ft x (16,40 / 16,95 ft) (92,00 m / 86,00 m) x 17,00 m x (5,00 / 5,17 m) Armament: 4 - 12,01" / 305 mm 40,0 cal guns - 829,70lbs / 376,34kg shells, 90 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1896 Model 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 7 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 53,17lbs / 24,12kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1896 Model 6 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread 6 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas 1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck forward Weight of broadside 3 691 lbs / 1 674 kg Main Torpedoes 2 - 15,0" / 380 mm, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m torpedoes - 0,332 t each, 0,664 t total submerged bow tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 4,72" / 120 mm 213,25 ft / 65,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: Unarmoured Main Belt covers 116% of normal length Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 4,72" / 120 mm 3,54" / 90 mm 5,91" / 150 mm 2nd: 1,18" / 30 mm 0,59" / 15 mm - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 1,57" / 40 mm Forecastle: 0,79" / 20 mm Quarter deck: 0,79" / 20 mm - Conning towers: Forward 2,36" / 60 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines, Direct drive, 2 shafts, 6 599 ihp / 4 923 Kw = 16,00 kts Range 1 200nm at 12,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 440 tons (100% coal) Complement: 287 - 374 Cost: £0,595 million / $2,380 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 711 tons, 14,8% - Guns: 709 tons, 14,8% - Weapons: 1 tons, 0,0% Armour: 1 076 tons, 22,4% - Belts: 439 tons, 9,1% - Armament: 288 tons, 6,0% - Armour Deck: 335 tons, 7,0% - Conning Tower: 14 tons, 0,3% Machinery: 1 090 tons, 22,7% Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 388 tons, 28,9% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 537 tons, 11,2% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 2 783 lbs / 1 262 Kg = 3,2 x 12,0 " / 305 mm shells or 3,1 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,35 Metacentric height 3,6 ft / 1,1 m Roll period: 12,4 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 82 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,98 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,64 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a ram bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,651 / 0,656 Length to Beam Ratio: 5,06 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 20,00 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 13,00 degrees Stern overhang: 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Forward deck: 41,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Aft deck: 24,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Average freeboard: 14,35 ft / 4,38 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 129,1% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 116,8% Waterplane Area: 12 589 Square feet or 1 170 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 79% Structure weight / hull surface area: 101 lbs/sq ft or 493 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,71 - Longitudinal: 2,81 - Overall: 0,81 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Adequate accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
von Echenbach: Ещё одна возможная предпосылка к Рюрику-2: строительство серии рейдеров с 1х2 12" в корме и 3-6 8" (от 3х1 - нос побортно, 4 по 2 на борт или, максимально,- 1х2 носовые + 4 в казематах), 8 6" при 19-21 уз - эдакой "отзеркально" улучшенный "Император Александр II". А при наличии башни 1х2 8" - и серия Богатырских Баянов: а) 2х2 8" с 6-8 6"\8 120-мм и б) 3х2 8" и 8-12 102 аи-120 мм.
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