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von Echenbach: Почти продолжение ветви аи Витте. :-) В начале 1905 года "попали в известного А.Н. Крылова. Несколько верноподданных докладов о опасности похода поначалу были проигнорированы. Далее последовала аудиенция... и Крылов получил должность технического директора в ГШ флота. Наладились хорошие отношения с ВКАМ, Кладо, Русиным и другими перспективными политиками, предпринимателями и моряками. Была утверждена программа восстановления флота. Изменения коснулись и политики. ВКАМ назначен на должность генерал-адмирала, Русин - нач. ГМШ. План Крылова включал в себя программу строительства кораблей различных классов на основе новых технологий в машиностроении и внедрение новых приёмов в кораблестроении. План предусматривал достройку броненосцев по измененному проекту, строительство новых кораблей - в классе ЛК-БР, КР, ЭМ-МН, ПЛ и МЗ-ТЩ, развитие авиации и десантных сил флота.
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von Echenbach: Общий план: "Андрей Первозванный" и "Павел 1" достраиваются с 3х3 12"/40 и 12 120-мм. Скорость в 18 узлов решили сохранить, установив турбины при уменьшенном числе котлов. Уменьшили запасы угля. План предусматривал вступление в строй в 1910 году. "Иоанн Златоуст" и "Св. Евстафий" перестраивались на вооружение с 2х3 12"/40 и 12 120-мм в двухуровневой батарее. Паровые машины планировалось заменить турбинами с редукторной системой. Вступление в строй в 1908 году. Серия крейсеров "Баян" (Баян, Макаров, Паллада) была экстренно перепроектирована в схему 4х2 8"/45 с возможностью замены машин на турбины французского проекта.Вступление в строй в 1909 году. Вооружение минных крейсеров типа "Всадник" изменили на 2 102, 2 37-мм и 3х2 ТА. Машины с броненосцев направлены на строящиеся вспомогательные корабли. Наиболее радикальным решением МТК и ГШ (Крылова) было проведение реформы артиллерии с линейкой калибров: 2 - 4 - 6 - 8 - 12 - 16 дюймов. 16 дюймов - с учетом послезнания и стимуляции гонки вооружений флотов ведущих стран мира. Предложенная программа строительства основывалась на строительстве в первом этапе небольших кораблей с отработкой технологий на "перестраиваемых". первый проект малого "линкора береговой обороны" - "Кремль" laid down 1906 Displacement: 10 479 t light; 11 077 t standard; 11 571 t normal; 11 967 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (423,23 ft / 406,82 ft) x 68,90 ft x (19,69 / 20,26 ft) (129,00 m / 124,00 m) x 21,00 m x (6,00 / 6,17 m) Armament: 9 - 12,01" / 305 mm 40,0 cal guns - 829,70lbs / 376,34kg shells, 80 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1906 Model 1 x 3-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 12 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 32,66lbs / 14,81kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1906 Model 12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread 12 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas 6 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 3,19lbs / 1,45kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1906 Model 6 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 7 878 lbs / 3 574 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 11,0" / 280 mm 249,34 ft / 76,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Ends: 3,15" / 80 mm 144,36 ft / 44,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 94% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 10,2" / 260 mm 3,15" / 80 mm 10,2" / 260 mm 2nd: 1,57" / 40 mm 0,39" / 10 mm - - Protected deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 3,15" / 80 mm Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm - Conning towers: Forward 7,09" / 180 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 22 687 shp / 16 925 Kw = 21,00 kts Range 2 200nm at 12,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 890 tons Complement: 557 - 725 Cost: £1,213 million / $4,851 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 1 524 tons, 13,2% - Guns: 1 524 tons, 13,2% Armour: 3 588 tons, 31,0% - Belts: 1 202 tons, 10,4% - Armament: 1 060 tons, 9,2% - Armour Deck: 1 249 tons, 10,8% - Conning Tower: 78 tons, 0,7% Machinery: 1 473 tons, 12,7% Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 893 tons, 33,6% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 092 tons, 9,4% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 13 889 lbs / 6 300 Kg = 16,0 x 12,0 " / 305 mm shells or 1,8 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,22 Metacentric height 4,1 ft / 1,2 m Roll period: 14,3 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 55 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,91 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,10 Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, an extended bulbous bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,734 / 0,738 Length to Beam Ratio: 5,90 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 23,47 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Aft deck: 35,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 17,39 ft / 5,30 m - Average freeboard: 17,00 ft / 5,18 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 90,9% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 135,7% Waterplane Area: 24 191 Square feet or 2 247 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 92% Structure weight / hull surface area: 144 lbs/sq ft or 705 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,92 - Longitudinal: 2,20 - Overall: 1,00 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room и наброски проекта большого-среднего "ЛК БО" "Новгород" - laid down 1910 Displacement: 15 208 t light; 16 372 t standard; 16 884 t normal; 17 293 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (517,57 ft / 501,97 ft) x 91,86 ft x (22,97 / 23,41 ft) (157,75 m / 153,00 m) x 28,00 m x (7,00 / 7,13 m) Armament: 9 - 15,98" / 406 mm 42,0 cal guns - 1 980,10lbs / 898,16kg shells, 80 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1910 Model 1 x 3-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 1 raised mount aft 12 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 32,66lbs / 14,81kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1910 Model 12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread 12 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas 6 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 3,19lbs / 1,45kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1910 Model 6 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 18 232 lbs / 8 270 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 11,0" / 280 mm 357,61 ft / 109,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Ends: 3,15" / 80 mm 91,86 ft / 28,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 52,49 ft / 16,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 110% of normal length Main Belt inclined 17,00 degrees (positive = in) - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 11,8" / 300 mm 3,54" / 90 mm 11,8" / 300 mm 2nd: 1,57" / 40 mm 0,39" / 10 mm - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 3,15" / 80 mm Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm - Conning towers: Forward 8,66" / 220 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 25 033 shp / 18 675 Kw = 21,00 kts Range 2 200nm at 12,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 921 tons Complement: 739 - 962 Cost: £2,247 million / $8,990 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 3 364 tons, 19,9% - Guns: 3 364 tons, 19,9% Armour: 5 320 tons, 31,5% - Belts: 1 522 tons, 9,0% - Armament: 1 897 tons, 11,2% - Armour Deck: 1 778 tons, 10,5% - Conning Tower: 123 tons, 0,7% Machinery: 1 034 tons, 6,1% Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 490 tons, 32,5% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 676 tons, 9,9% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 10 720 lbs / 4 863 Kg = 5,2 x 16,0 " / 406 mm shells or 2,1 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,13 Metacentric height 5,5 ft / 1,7 m Roll period: 16,4 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 56 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,94 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,11 Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a straight bulbous bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,558 / 0,561 Length to Beam Ratio: 5,46 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 26,77 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Forward deck: 44,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Aft deck: 24,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Average freeboard: 15,71 ft / 4,79 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 102,3% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 128,5% Waterplane Area: 33 762 Square feet or 3 137 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 76% Structure weight / hull surface area: 165 lbs/sq ft or 805 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,62 - Longitudinal: 1,43 - Overall: 0,68 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Инженер Сидоров: von Echenbach пишет: План предусматривал достройку броненосцев по измененному проекту Бровеносцы - лесом. Линкоры (пусть и с 12"/40 вначале) - наше всё, тем более, что сведения о начале проектирования "Дредноута" наверняка уже поступали в ГМШ и МТК. von Echenbach пишет: Наладились хорошие отношения с ВКАМ, Кладо, Русиным и другими перспективными политиками, предпринимателями и моряками. Забыли упомянуть такую знаковую фигуру, как командующий артиллерией крепости Владивосток генерал-лейтенант В.Ф. Белый - одного из наиболее прогрессивных артиллеристов того времени.
von Echenbach: Версия Лг-Лн КР (пр. 13031) - в строю в 1913 г. Для БФ - 2 (Рюрик, Громобой). Рис. немного в ином виде: башня ГК №2 сдвинута в корму, две трубы. Сообщение №3748. см. https://altflotofag.forum24.ru/?1-7-0-00000033-000-20-0#019.001 laid down 1909 Displacement: 11 982 t light; 12 501 t standard; 13 036 t normal; 13 465 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (585,48 ft / 564,30 ft) x 68,90 ft x (22,97 / 23,52 ft) (178,45 m / 172,00 m) x 21,00 m x (7,00 / 7,17 m) Armament: 6 - 12,01" / 305 mm 42,0 cal guns - 839,48lbs / 380,78kg shells, 80 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1911 Model 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 1 raised mount aft 12 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 32,66lbs / 14,81kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1911 Model 12 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread 12 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas 6 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 3,19lbs / 1,45kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1911 Model 6 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 5 448 lbs / 2 471 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 0,913 t each, 3,651 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 7,09" / 180 mm 341,21 ft / 104,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: 2,36" / 60 mm 216,54 ft / 66,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 93% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 9,45" / 240 mm 2,36" / 60 mm 9,45" / 240 mm 2nd: 1,18" / 30 mm 0,59" / 15 mm - - Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 2,36" / 60 mm Forecastle: 0,98" / 25 mm Quarter deck: 0,98" / 25 mm - Conning towers: Forward 7,09" / 180 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 60 430 shp / 45 081 Kw = 29,00 kts Range 2 200nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 964 tons Complement: 609 - 793 Cost: £1,222 million / $4,886 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 1 108 tons, 8,5% - Guns: 1 101 tons, 8,4% - Weapons: 7 tons, 0,1% Armour: 3 185 tons, 24,4% - Belts: 1 201 tons, 9,2% - Armament: 830 tons, 6,4% - Armour Deck: 1 069 tons, 8,2% - Conning Tower: 85 tons, 0,6% Machinery: 2 453 tons, 18,8% Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 236 tons, 40,2% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 054 tons, 8,1% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 15 413 lbs / 6 991 Kg = 17,8 x 12,0 " / 305 mm shells or 2,8 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,08 Metacentric height 3,3 ft / 1,0 m Roll period: 15,9 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 52 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,87 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,03 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,511 / 0,515 Length to Beam Ratio: 8,19 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 27,51 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 21,00 degrees Stern overhang: 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 29,53 ft / 9,00 m, 21,33 ft / 6,50 m - Forward deck: 44,00%, 21,33 ft / 6,50 m, 21,33 ft / 6,50 m - Aft deck: 21,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Average freeboard: 19,27 ft / 5,88 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 92,8% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 157,0% Waterplane Area: 27 218 Square feet or 2 529 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105% Structure weight / hull surface area: 143 lbs/sq ft or 697 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,96 - Longitudinal: 1,74 - Overall: 1,02 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Проект "большого ЛК БО" (Пр 22022 - 1910-12). 3х3 406/42. Для БФ - 2 (Гангут, Петропавловск), для ЧФ - 3* (Император Александр III, Императрица Мария, Императрица Екатерина Великая). *- 23-0-32 , 2 в 1911, 1 в 1912. laid down 1910 Displacement: 20 076 t light; 21 236 t standard; 22 040 t normal; 22 683 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (637,98 ft / 616,80 ft) x 91,86 ft x (24,93 / 25,48 ft) (194,45 m / 188,00 m) x 28,00 m x (7,60 / 7,77 m) Armament: 9 - 15,98" / 406 mm 40,0 cal guns - 1 957,04lbs / 887,70kg shells, 70 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1910 Model 1 x 3-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 1 raised mount aft 12 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 32,66lbs / 14,81kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1910 Model 12 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread 12 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas 6 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 3,19lbs / 1,45kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1910 Model 6 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 18 024 lbs / 8 176 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 11,8" / 300 mm 341,21 ft / 104,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Ends: 2,36" / 60 mm 249,34 ft / 76,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 26,25 ft / 8,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 85% of normal length Main Belt inclined 19,00 degrees (positive = in) - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 11,8" / 300 mm 3,94" / 100 mm 11,8" / 300 mm 2nd: 1,18" / 30 mm 0,39" / 10 mm - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 3,15" / 80 mm Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm - Conning towers: Forward 9,45" / 240 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 41 673 shp / 31 088 Kw = 24,00 kts Range 2 200nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 1 447 tons Complement: 903 - 1 175 Cost: £2,423 million / $9,692 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 3 171 tons, 14,4% - Guns: 3 171 tons, 14,4% Armour: 5 960 tons, 27,0% - Belts: 1 701 tons, 7,7% - Armament: 1 971 tons, 8,9% - Armour Deck: 2 128 tons, 9,7% - Conning Tower: 160 tons, 0,7% Machinery: 1 722 tons, 7,8% Hull, fittings & equipment: 9 222 tons, 41,8% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 964 tons, 8,9% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 23 429 lbs / 10 627 Kg = 11,5 x 16,0 " / 406 mm shells or 2,9 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,13 Metacentric height 5,5 ft / 1,7 m Roll period: 16,4 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 56 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 1,00 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,23 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,546 / 0,550 Length to Beam Ratio: 6,71 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 29,15 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 46 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 21,00 degrees Stern overhang: 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 29,53 ft / 9,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Forward deck: 42,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Aft deck: 23,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Average freeboard: 18,23 ft / 5,56 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 84,9% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 150,2% Waterplane Area: 41 011 Square feet or 3 810 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 94% Structure weight / hull surface area: 198 lbs/sq ft or 964 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,83 - Longitudinal: 1,54 - Overall: 0,88 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily Проект ЛгКР-МЗ (в перспективе как Авиа-крейсер/учебный крейсер): laid down 1911 по 2 для БФ, ЧФ, ФлСЛО. Displacement: 4 391 t light; 4 551 t standard; 4 838 t normal; 5 067 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (474,30 ft / 456,04 ft) x 49,21 ft x (14,76 / 15,28 ft) (144,57 m / 139,00 m) x 15,00 m x (4,50 / 4,66 m) Armament: 7 - 5,98" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,07lbs / 49,02kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1911 Model 3 x Single mounts on centreline ends, majority aft 4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 756 lbs / 343 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 0,913 t each, 3,651 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 2,36" / 60 mm 328,08 ft / 100,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 98,43 ft / 30,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m 29,53 ft / 9,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 111% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,47" / 12 mm 0,31" / 8 mm - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 1,97" / 50 mm Forecastle: 0,98" / 25 mm Quarter deck: 0,98" / 25 mm - Conning towers: Forward 2,36" / 60 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 3 shafts, 35 348 shp / 26 369 Kw = 29,00 kts Range 2 200nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 516 tons Complement: 289 - 377 Cost: £0,390 million / $1,561 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 136 tons, 2,8% - Guns: 129 tons, 2,7% - Weapons: 7 tons, 0,2% Armour: 854 tons, 17,7% - Belts: 295 tons, 6,1% - Armament: 18 tons, 0,4% - Armour Deck: 527 tons, 10,9% - Conning Tower: 15 tons, 0,3% Machinery: 1 435 tons, 29,7% Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 666 tons, 34,4% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 447 tons, 9,2% Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 6,2% - Hull below water: 240 tons - Hull above water: 40 tons - On freeboard deck: 20 tons Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 5 816 lbs / 2 638 Kg = 54,3 x 6,0 " / 152 mm shells or 1,5 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,38 Metacentric height 3,0 ft / 0,9 m Roll period: 11,9 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 55 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,14 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,10 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,511 / 0,517 Length to Beam Ratio: 9,27 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 24,48 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 27,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Aft deck: 37,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Average freeboard: 16,51 ft / 5,03 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 110,3% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 162,6% Waterplane Area: 15 711 Square feet or 1 460 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 111% Structure weight / hull surface area: 73 lbs/sq ft or 356 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,98 - Longitudinal: 1,43 - Overall: 1,02 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room
von Echenbach: Кстати, вот и неприятель заказ выдал, хотя и обозвали его троллем :-) На ФАИ, в кораблестроении, османский ЛК 14 г. Несколько странные ТТЭ, но заказ. Примерно вышло как уменьшенный Исе-Фусо. laid down 1912 Kamarjn-pasha Displacement: 21 450 t light; 22 360 t standard; 22 914 t normal; 23 357 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (667,50 ft / 649,61 ft) x 88,58 ft x (26,25 / 26,62 ft) (203,45 m / 198,00 m) x 27,00 m x (8,00 / 8,12 m) Armament: 12 - 12,01" / 305 mm 45,0 cal guns - 873,08lbs / 396,02kg shells, 70 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1912 Model 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, forward deck forward 1 raised mount - superfiring 4 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 2 raised mounts 16 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 32,66lbs / 14,81kg shells, 150 per gun Dual purpose guns in casemate mounts, 1912 Model 16 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread Weight of broadside 10 999 lbs / 4 989 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 10,2" / 260 mm 324,80 ft / 99,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Ends: 4,72" / 120 mm 288,71 ft / 88,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m 36,09 ft / 11,00 m Unarmoured ends Upper: 10,2" / 260 mm 288,71 ft / 88,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Main Belt covers 77% of normal length Main Belt inclined 19,00 degrees (positive = in) - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 10,2" / 260 mm 6,30" / 160 mm 10,2" / 260 mm 2nd: 0,79" / 20 mm - - - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 4,72" / 120 mm Forecastle: 2,36" / 60 mm Quarter deck: 2,36" / 60 mm - Conning towers: Forward 10,24" / 260 mm, Aft 2,36" / 60 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 17 165 shp / 12 805 Kw = 18,00 kts Range 2 200nm at 12,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 998 tons Complement: 930 - 1 210 Cost: £1,850 million / $7,399 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 2 389 tons, 10,4% - Guns: 2 389 tons, 10,4% Armour: 8 724 tons, 38,1% - Belts: 2 778 tons, 12,1% - Armament: 2 392 tons, 10,4% - Armour Deck: 3 335 tons, 14,6% - Conning Towers: 219 tons, 1,0% Machinery: 684 tons, 3,0% Hull, fittings & equipment: 9 653 tons, 42,1% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 464 tons, 6,4% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 46 048 lbs / 20 887 Kg = 53,2 x 12,0 " / 305 mm shells or 5,5 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,01 Metacentric height 4,2 ft / 1,3 m Roll period: 18,1 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,91 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,43 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,531 / 0,534 Length to Beam Ratio: 7,33 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 29,73 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 29 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 21,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 29,53 ft / 9,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Forward deck: 27,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Aft deck: 42,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Quarter deck: 13,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Average freeboard: 19,83 ft / 6,04 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 49,2% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 159,5% Waterplane Area: 41 056 Square feet or 3 814 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 117% Structure weight / hull surface area: 192 lbs/sq ft or 939 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,07 - Longitudinal: 1,69 - Overall: 1,12 Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily Дополнение от 01.03.2021. Версия на 1935 год при "основе на данных заказчика" - т.е. присутствуют заказанные цифры. Проект в этом отношении будет развиваться - это же надо-было придумать подобные трудносочетаемые данные... laid down 1935 Displacement: 22 046 t light; 23 338 t standard; 24 722 t normal; 25 829 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (741,43 ft / 715,22 ft) x 78,74 ft (Bulges 91,86 ft) x (29,53 / 30,57 ft) (225,99 m / 218,00 m) x 24,00 m (Bulges 28,00 m) x (9,00 / 9,32 m) Armament: 12 - 11,81" / 300 mm 55,0 cal guns - 889,23lbs / 403,35kg shells, 120 per gun Quick firing guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1935 Model 4 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 2 raised mounts 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, forward deck forward 1 raised mount - superfiring 6 - 4,72" / 120 mm 55,0 cal guns - 56,91lbs / 25,81kg shells, 450 per gun Machine guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1935 Model 6 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft 2 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 3,19lbs / 1,45kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre Weight of broadside 11 019 lbs / 4 998 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 10,2" / 260 mm 377,30 ft / 115,00 m 16,40 ft / 5,00 m Ends: 2,36" / 60 mm 295,28 ft / 90,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m 42,65 ft / 13,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 81% of normal length Main Belt inclined 27,00 degrees (positive = in) - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 10,2" / 260 mm 3,54" / 90 mm 10,2" / 260 mm 2nd: 2,36" / 60 mm 1,18" / 30 mm 2,36" / 60 mm - Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 7,09" / 180 mm Forecastle: 2,36" / 60 mm Quarter deck: 3,54" / 90 mm - Conning towers: Forward 7,09" / 180 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Electric cruising motors plus geared drives, 4 shafts, 92 201 shp / 68 782 Kw = 30,00 kts Range 4 000nm at 18,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 2 491 tons Complement: 985 - 1 281 Cost: £12,198 million / $48,794 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 2 985 tons, 12,1% - Guns: 2 985 tons, 12,1% Armour: 9 896 tons, 40,0% - Belts: 3 062 tons, 12,4% - Armament: 2 232 tons, 9,0% - Armour Deck: 4 473 tons, 18,1% - Conning Tower: 130 tons, 0,5% Machinery: 2 619 tons, 10,6% Hull, fittings & equipment: 6 546 tons, 26,5% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 675 tons, 10,8% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 21 422 lbs / 9 717 Kg = 26,0 x 11,8 " / 300 mm shells or 3,1 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,03 Metacentric height 3,7 ft / 1,1 m Roll period: 20,0 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 57 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,71 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,15 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, an extended bulbous bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,446 / 0,450 Length to Beam Ratio: 7,79 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 31,40 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 29,00 degrees Stern overhang: 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 17,00%, 29,53 ft / 9,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Forward deck: 26,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Aft deck: 43,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Average freeboard: 19,90 ft / 6,07 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 80,6% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 135,8% Waterplane Area: 37 191 Square feet or 3 455 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 91% Structure weight / hull surface area: 138 lbs/sq ft or 671 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,73 - Longitudinal: 1,04 - Overall: 0,76 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room
von Echenbach: Парсонс, турбины, производство в России - реал и аи, а также незаслуженно остающаяся в тени аи "Турбиния"... "Турбиния" - 44,5 т, 34,5 уз... 2000 л.с. - 3 винта. добваляем 2-4 торпеды (бугельные поначалу та) и пару митральез - ву а ля/пуркуа па?!!! ТКА + носители. И это 1894-97 год. В ри - производство и поставки комплектов Браун-Бовери-Парсонс 12000 л.с., Кертис-Вулкан 14000 лс. и пр. В аи: Парсонс и пр - 2000 - экспериментальное исследователно-опытное производство в 1905-06 года. На перестраиваемые корабли - импортные комплекты в 8000 л.с. м лицензией на производство в 1906-07 гг. Производство турбин и котлов нефтяного типа - 2 - 4 - 8 - 16_ 000 л.с. На основе проекта ЛгКР-МЗ в 4600 (5000) т - по 2 крейсера для БФ - 1911, ЧФ - 1910, ФлСТО/ замена ТО кр в перспективе с закладкой в 1912 г./: 5000 т, 29 уз, 2200 миль, 3х2 152, Б,П, Бш, Р - 60-30 + 8 75, 2-4х2 ТА. На основе проекта "Новик" - развитие типа лидер "Изяслав" - 1500 т, 32 уз, 3х2 120-мм, 4 - 47, 2х3 ТА: по 3 на ТВД, закладка в 1912 г. Официально - 3х1 152 или 6х1 102. Возможно применение более толстой обшивки для выполнения функции противоледового-противоосколочного пояса в 12-18 мм. Новика: ри, 8 - для ЧФ, 12 - для БФ, по 4 для ФлСЛО и ТОФл с закладкой (Балтика) в 1914 г. "турбинизированные" ЭМ т. "Всадник": по 8 для БФ, ЧФ и по 4 для ФлСЛО и ТОФл с закладкой (Балтика) в 1913. laid down 1909 Displacement: 542 t light; 560 t standard; 601 t normal; 633 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (247,16 ft / 236,22 ft) x 22,97 ft x (7,22 / 7,51 ft) (75,33 m / 72,00 m) x 7,00 m x (2,20 / 2,29 m) Armament: 3 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 32,66lbs / 14,81kg shells, 110 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1909 Model 1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x Single mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 2 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 35,0 cal guns - 2,97lbs / 1,35kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1909 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 104 lbs / 47 kg Main Torpedoes 6 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 0,905 t each, 5,428 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted centre rotating tubes Main DC/AS Mortars 2 - 90,39 lbs / 41,00 kg Depth Charges + 8 reloads - 0,404 t total in Stern depth charge racks Armour: - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,24" / 6 mm - - Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 13 206 shp / 9 852 Kw = 29,00 kts Range 900nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 73 tons Complement: 59 - 78 Cost: £0,068 million / $0,272 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 30 tons, 5,0% - Guns: 19 tons, 3,1% - Weapons: 11 tons, 1,9% Armour: 2 tons, 0,3% - Armament: 2 tons, 0,3% Machinery: 315 tons, 52,4% Hull, fittings & equipment: 195 tons, 32,5% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 59 tons, 9,8% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 219 lbs / 99 Kg = 6,8 x 4,0 " / 102 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,22 Metacentric height 0,8 ft / 0,2 m Roll period: 10,8 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 52 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,33 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,04 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,537 / 0,544 Length to Beam Ratio: 10,29 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 17,43 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 72 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 23,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Forward deck: 26,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Aft deck: 41,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Average freeboard: 12,85 ft / 3,92 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 177,4% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 118,2% Waterplane Area: 3 893 Square feet or 362 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 48% Structure weight / hull surface area: 23 lbs/sq ft or 114 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,51 - Longitudinal: 4,29 - Overall: 0,63 Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Adequate accommodation and workspace room Для отработки установки ТЗА турбин и систем подачи-заряжания (гидравлика и м.б. клиновый затвор для морских орудий) строить по 2 на БФ и СФ: 1600 т, 16 уз, турбины, 2х2 203/45-50 (4-6 выстр. в мин), 6-8 75. Борт - 4", Палуба - 2". Болиндеры (десантные самоходные паромы/баржи/прамы): 150 т, 39х7х1 м, 74 л.с. (2х40) - 8 уз, 90 т груза, 2 75, 2 47. В качестве КЛ: 1 152/ 2 120-102/2 122-152 гаубицы/1 рота десанта или 1 полевая батарея. по 12 на ТВД. laid down 1910, Displacement: 144 t light; 150 t standard; 151 t normal; 153 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (133,36 ft / 127,95 ft) x 22,97 ft x (3,28 / 3,30 ft) (40,65 m / 39,00 m) x 7,00 m x (1,00 / 1,01 m) Armament: 2 - 2,95" / 75,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 12,98lbs / 5,89kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1910 Model 2 x Single mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 2 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 35,0 cal guns - 2,97lbs / 1,35kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1910 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 32 lbs / 14 kg Armour: - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,31" / 8 mm - - 2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - - - Conning towers: Forward 0,00" / 0 mm, Aft 0,47" / 12 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, ERROR: no steam engines, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 74 shp / 56 Kw = 8,00 kts Range 400nm at 6,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 3 tons Complement: 21 - 28 Cost: £0,007 million / $0,026 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 6 tons, 3,9% - Guns: 6 tons, 3,9% Armour: 3 tons, 1,8% - Armament: 2 tons, 1,6% - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0,2% Machinery: 0 tons, 0,0% Hull, fittings & equipment: 45 tons, 30,0% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 7 tons, 4,9% Miscellaneous weights: 90 tons, 59,4% - Hull below water: 90 tons Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 387 lbs / 176 Kg = 30,1 x 3,0 " / 75 mm shells or 0,5 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,99 Metacentric height 1,6 ft / 0,5 m Roll period: 7,5 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 88 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,08 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,77 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise aft of midbreak, low quarterdeck , a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,550 / 0,551 Length to Beam Ratio: 5,57 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 13,51 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 27 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 33,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 3,28 ft / 1,00 m, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m - Forward deck: 46,00%, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m - Aft deck: 22,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 4,92 ft / 1,50 m, 4,92 ft / 1,50 m - Average freeboard: 6,82 ft / 2,08 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 75,6% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 147,6% Waterplane Area: 2 135 Square feet or 198 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 141% Structure weight / hull surface area: 18 lbs/sq ft or 87 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,61 - Longitudinal: 1,70 - Overall: 0,67 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather Эльпидифоры (десантные, КЛ, ТЩЭ): 606 т, 63х9х1,5, 12 уз, 2 102, 300 т груза. - по 8 на ТВД. Возможны различные варианты нагрузок. laid down 1908, Displacement: 571 t light; 590 t standard; 606 t normal; 619 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (216,37 ft / 206,69 ft) x 29,53 ft x (4,92 / 5,01 ft) (65,95 m / 63,00 m) x 9,00 m x (1,50 / 1,53 m) Armament: 2 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 32,66lbs / 14,81kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1908 Model 2 x Single mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 2 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 35,0 cal guns - 2,97lbs / 1,35kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1908 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 71 lbs / 32 kg Armour: - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,31" / 8 mm 0,16" / 4 mm - 2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - - - Conning towers: Forward 0,00" / 0 mm, Aft 0,47" / 12 mm Machinery: Diesel Internal combustion motors, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 677 shp / 505 Kw = 12,00 kts Range 800nm at 9,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 29 tons Complement: 60 - 79 Cost: £0,028 million / $0,113 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 13 tons, 2,1% - Guns: 13 tons, 2,1% Armour: 4 tons, 0,7% - Armament: 3 tons, 0,5% - Conning Tower: 1 tons, 0,1% Machinery: 34 tons, 5,6% Hull, fittings & equipment: 211 tons, 34,8% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 34 tons, 5,7% Miscellaneous weights: 310 tons, 51,2% - Hull below water: 300 tons - On freeboard deck: 10 tons Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 1 542 lbs / 700 Kg = 47,6 x 4,0 " / 102 mm shells or 0,8 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,90 Metacentric height 2,2 ft / 0,7 m Roll period: 8,3 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 69 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,05 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,38 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise aft of midbreak, low quarterdeck , a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,706 / 0,708 Length to Beam Ratio: 7,00 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 16,53 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 36 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 33,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 16,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m - Forward deck: 42,00%, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m - Aft deck: 27,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m - Average freeboard: 7,66 ft / 2,33 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 78,4% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 127,9% Waterplane Area: 5 136 Square feet or 477 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 146% Structure weight / hull surface area: 34 lbs/sq ft or 167 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,99 - Longitudinal: 1,13 - Overall: 1,00 Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily Построена ЖД Петрозаводск - Мурманск, + береговые батареи с 4 203 и 6 152, 8 120 -мм. 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von Echenbach: Возможные малые корабли: СКА-ПЛО, арт.Катера поддержки десанта, версия бронекатеров десанта или малые БрКА. Рейдовые ТЩ-катерные. laid down 1911, Displacement: 37 t light; 39 t standard; 40 t normal; 40 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (87,32 ft / 82,02 ft) x 13,12 ft x (3,28 / 3,31 ft) (26,61 m / 25,00 m) x 4,00 m x (1,00 / 1,01 m) Armament: 1 - 2,95" / 75,0 mm 45,0 cal gun - 12,98lbs / 5,89kg shells, 80 per gun Quick firing gun in deck mount, 1911 Model 1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck aft 2 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 35,0 cal guns - 2,97lbs / 1,35kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1911 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward Weight of broadside 19 lbs / 9 kg Main DC/AS Mortars 2 - 90,39 lbs / 41,00 kg Depth Charges + 8 reloads - 0,404 t total in Stern depth charge racks Machinery: Petrol Internal combustion motors, Geared drive, 3 shafts, 178 shp / 133 Kw = 12,00 kts Range 200nm at 8,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 1 tons Complement: 7 - 10 Cost: £0,003 million / $0,013 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 4 tons, 10,1% - Guns: 4 tons, 8,8% - Weapons: 1 tons, 1,3% Machinery: 7 tons, 18,1% Hull, fittings & equipment: 16 tons, 40,4% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3 tons, 6,3% Miscellaneous weights: 10 tons, 25,1% - Hull below water: 10 tons Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 58 lbs / 26 Kg = 4,5 x 3,0 " / 75 mm shells or 0,2 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,59 Metacentric height 0,5 ft / 0,2 m Roll period: 7,7 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 54 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,17 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,08 Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,395 / 0,397 Length to Beam Ratio: 6,25 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 10,96 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 21,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 5,25 ft / 1,60 m, 3,94 ft / 1,20 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 3,94 ft / 1,20 m, 3,28 ft / 1,00 m - Aft deck: 35,00%, 3,28 ft / 1,00 m, 3,28 ft / 1,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 3,28 ft / 1,00 m, 3,94 ft / 1,20 m - Average freeboard: 3,66 ft / 1,12 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 108,2% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 64,0% Waterplane Area: 685 Square feet or 64 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 120% Structure weight / hull surface area: 19 lbs/sq ft or 93 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,96 - Longitudinal: 2,77 - Overall: 1,07 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Cramped accommodation and workspace room
von Echenbach: ПЛ малые-учебные: близки к АГ. по 3 на БФ и ЧФ. laid down 1911, Displacement: 241 t light; 246 t standard; 249 t normal; 250 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (148,40 ft / 144,36 ft) x 16,40 ft x (6,56 / 6,60 ft) (45,23 m / 44,00 m) x 5,00 m x (2,00 / 2,01 m) Armament: 1 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 35,0 cal gun - 2,97lbs / 1,35kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading gun in deck mount, 1911 Model 1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck forward Weight of broadside 3 lbs / 1 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 0,913 t each, 3,651 t total submerged bow tubes 2nd Torpedoes 2 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 0,913 t each, 1,825 t total submerged stern tubes Machinery: Diesel Internal combustion motors, Electric cruising motors plus geared drives, 2 shafts, 118 shp / 88 Kw = 9,00 kts Range 400nm at 6,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 4 tons Complement: 30 - 40 Cost: £0,009 million / $0,037 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 11 tons, 4,6% - Guns: 0 tons, 0,2% - Weapons: 11 tons, 4,4% Machinery: 5 tons, 1,9% Hull, fittings & equipment: 145 tons, 58,3% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 8 tons, 3,0% Miscellaneous weights: 80 tons, 32,2% - Hull below water: 80 tons Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 301 lbs / 137 Kg = 2,8 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 0,2 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,27 Metacentric height 0,5 ft / 0,2 m Roll period: 9,6 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,02 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,41 Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a normal bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,560 / 0,561 Length to Beam Ratio: 8,80 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 12,92 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 29 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 13,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 17,00%, 3,28 ft / 1,00 m, 5,58 ft / 1,70 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 5,58 ft / 1,70 m, 5,58 ft / 1,70 m - Aft deck: 38,00%, 5,58 ft / 1,70 m, 5,58 ft / 1,70 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 5,58 ft / 1,70 m, 4,59 ft / 1,40 m - Average freeboard: 5,35 ft / 1,63 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 97,7% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 60,5% Waterplane Area: 1 710 Square feet or 159 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 274% Structure weight / hull surface area: 53 lbs/sq ft or 256 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 2,21 - Longitudinal: 3,38 - Overall: 2,31 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Cramped accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily Средние ПЛ - 500 т, 12/6 уз, 6 ТА: по 6 на БФ (закладка 1911-12), ЧФ (закладка 1912-13, на ТОФл - 3 (закладка 1914).
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