Форум » МЦМ » МЦМ-7 (продолжение) » Ответить
МЦМ-7 (продолжение)
cobra: Коллеги а не выложить ли мне свой справочник по РИФ в предварительной редакции?
DoctorHaider: Mukhin пишет: Если он лидер минной дивизии - зачем ему 8-дм орудия? Тот крейсер, что на картинке выше - это не легкий крейсер 1910 года, а броненосный крейсер 1905 года. 1910 года с 152 мм.
Good: von Echenbach пишет: Есть опыт возвышенного положения СК у французов есть. Весьма негативный опыт. von Echenbach пишет: Зачем 4 трубы? 4 КО. cobra пишет: А зачем нам именно 4 трубы на крейсере 10-го года? Слишком много больших котлов. cobra пишет: И кстати посчитайте мой первичный вариант и посчитайте плс ваши варианты..... Ваш первоначальный вариант – “расположение орудий: одно в носу, по одному с борта, 3 в корме в ДП (примечание: как на германских ЭМ ВМВ реала, то есть 2 в корме ступенчато смотрят в корму, далее мачта и одно смотрит в нос)”. Стоимость – более 5,4 млн. руб. Водоизм. (норм./полн.) – 5520/5990 Т; гл. размерен. (макс.) – 151,4х14,9х5,3 м; ЭУ - 2 ПТА сист. Парсонса общ. мощн. 33 тыс. л.с., 4 винта, 16 ПК сист. Ярроу; скор. хода (полн.) – 28,2 узл., дальн. плав. – 3250 миль со скор. 14 узл. при полн. запас топл.: уголь – 850 Т, нефть – 210 Т; броня: пояс - 38-76-38 мм, палуба 38-25 мм, рубка - 76 мм, щиты оруд. – 51/25 мм; вооружение: 6 – 152/50-мм (по 225 снар. на оруд.), 2 – 47/43-мм (по 200 снар. на оруд.), 4 торп. апп. 457-мм (подв. борт., всего 8 торпед), 120 мин загражд. обр. 1908 г.; экипаж – 416 чел. Кр 1910 г. Вар.C, Россия Крейсер laid down 1910 Displacement: 4 731 t light; 4 927 t standard; 5 516 t normal; 5 988 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (496,75 ft / 489,99 ft) x 48,72 ft x (16,34 / 17,34 ft) (151,41 m / 149,35 m) x 14,85 m x (4,98 / 5,29 m) Armament: 3 - 6,00" / 152 mm 50,0 cal guns - 104,28lbs / 47,30kg shells, 225 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1910 Model 1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x Single mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount - superfiring 3 - 6,00" / 152 mm 50,0 cal guns - 104,28lbs / 47,30kg shells, 225 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1910 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread 1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck forward 1 raised mount 2 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 43,0 cal guns - 3,31lbs / 1,50kg shells, 200 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1889 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides amidships 2 raised mounts Weight of broadside 632 lbs / 287 kg 8 - 18,0" / 457 mm, 16,83 ft / 5,13 m torpedoes - 0,811 t each, 6,491 t total In 4 sets of submerged side tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 3,00" / 76 mm 310,04 ft / 94,50 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Ends: 1,50" / 38 mm 179,79 ft / 54,80 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Main Belt covers 97% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 2,00" / 51 mm 1,00" / 25 mm - 2nd: 2,00" / 51 mm 1,00" / 25 mm - - Protected deck - single deck: 1,00" / 25 mm For and Aft decks Forecastle: 1,50" / 38 mm Quarter deck: 1,50" / 38 mm - Conning towers: Forward 3,00" / 76 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Direct drive, 4 shafts, 33 111 shp / 24 701 Kw = 28,20 kts Range 3 250nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 1 062 tons (80% coal) Complement: 319 - 416 Cost: £0,409 million / $1,634 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 121 tons, 2,2% - Guns: 115 tons, 2,1% - Torpedoes: 6 tons, 0,1% Armour: 829 tons, 15,0% - Belts: 397 tons, 7,2% - Armament: 51 tons, 0,9% - Armour Deck: 361 tons, 6,5% - Conning Tower: 20 tons, 0,4% Machinery: 1 476 tons, 26,7% Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 185 tons, 39,6% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 786 tons, 14,2% Miscellaneous weights: 120 tons, 2,2% - On freeboard deck: 120 tons Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 6 681 lbs / 3 030 Kg = 61,9 x 6,0 " / 152 mm shells or 1,2 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,32 Metacentric height 2,8 ft / 0,9 m Roll period: 12,2 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 53 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,11 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,07 Hull form characteristics: Hull has raised forecastle, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,495 / 0,506 Length to Beam Ratio: 10,06 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 25,26 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 30,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Forward deck: 25,00%, 12,30 ft / 3,75 m, 12,30 ft / 3,75 m - Aft deck: 20,00%, 12,30 ft / 3,75 m, 12,30 ft / 3,75 m - Quarter deck: 25,00%, 12,30 ft / 3,75 m, 12,30 ft / 3,75 m - Average freeboard: 14,52 ft / 4,43 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 97,2% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 120,9% Waterplane Area: 16 464 Square feet or 1 530 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 130% Structure weight / hull surface area: 90 lbs/sq ft or 440 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,28 - Longitudinal: 1,30 - Overall: 1,28 Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent Мой вариант (расположение 6”-к: две рядом на баке, одна на юте, одна – на навесной палубе за кормовым мостиком и две по бортам диагонально). Стоимость – более 5,4 млн. руб. Водоизм. (норм./полн.) – 5580/6060 Т; гл. размерен. (макс.) – 151,4х15,2х5,2 м; ЭУ - 2 ПТА сист. Парсонса общ. мощн. 33 тыс. л.с., 4 винта, 16 ПК сист. Ярроу; скор. хода (полн.) – 28,2 узл., дальн. плав. – 3250 миль со скор. 14 узл. при полн. запас топл.: уголь – 860 Т, нефть – 210 Т; броня: пояс - 38-76-38 мм, палуба 38-25 мм, рубка - 76 мм, щиты оруд. – 51/25 мм; вооружение: 6 – 152/50-мм (по 225 снар. на оруд.), 2 – 47/43-мм (по 200 снар. на оруд.), 4 торп. апп. 457-мм (подв. борт., всего 8 торпед), 120 мин загражд. обр. 1908 г.; экипаж – 416 чел. Кр 1910 г. Вар.G, Россия Крейсер laid down 1910 Displacement: 4 790 t light; 4 987 t standard; 5 583 t normal; 6 059 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (496,75 ft / 489,99 ft) x 49,70 ft x (16,21 / 17,20 ft) (151,41 m / 149,35 m) x 15,15 m x (4,94 / 5,24 m) Armament: 4 - 6,00" / 152 mm 50,0 cal guns - 104,28lbs / 47,30kg shells, 225 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1910 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward 2 x Single mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount - superfiring 2 - 6,00" / 152 mm 50,0 cal guns - 104,28lbs / 47,30kg shells, 225 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1910 Model 1 x Single mount on sides, aft deck centre 1 x Single mount on sides, forward deck centre 2 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 43,0 cal guns - 3,31lbs / 1,50kg shells, 200 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1889 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides amidships 2 raised mounts Weight of broadside 632 lbs / 287 kg 8 - 18,0" / 457 mm, 16,83 ft / 5,13 m torpedoes - 0,811 t each, 6,491 t total In 4 sets of submerged side tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 3,00" / 76 mm 308,40 ft / 94,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Ends: 1,50" / 38 mm 181,43 ft / 55,30 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Main Belt covers 97% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 2,00" / 51 mm 1,00" / 25 mm - 2nd: 2,00" / 51 mm 1,00" / 25 mm - - Protected deck - single deck: 1,00" / 25 mm For and Aft decks Forecastle: 1,50" / 38 mm Quarter deck: 1,50" / 38 mm - Conning towers: Forward 3,00" / 76 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Direct drive, 4 shafts, 33 381 shp / 24 902 Kw = 28,20 kts Range 3 250nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 1 072 tons (80% coal) Complement: 322 - 419 Cost: £0,412 million / $1,649 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 121 tons, 2,2% - Guns: 115 tons, 2,1% - Torpedoes: 6 tons, 0,1% Armour: 830 tons, 14,9% - Belts: 397 tons, 7,1% - Armament: 51 tons, 0,9% - Armour Deck: 362 tons, 6,5% - Conning Tower: 20 tons, 0,4% Machinery: 1 488 tons, 26,6% Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 231 tons, 40,0% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 792 tons, 14,2% Miscellaneous weights: 120 tons, 2,1% - On freeboard deck: 120 tons Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 6 918 lbs / 3 138 Kg = 64,1 x 6,0 " / 152 mm shells or 1,2 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,36 Metacentric height 3,0 ft / 0,9 m Roll period: 12,0 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 52 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,09 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,04 Hull form characteristics: Hull has raised forecastle, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,495 / 0,506 Length to Beam Ratio: 9,86 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 25,30 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 25,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Forward deck: 25,00%, 12,30 ft / 3,75 m, 12,30 ft / 3,75 m - Aft deck: 25,00%, 12,30 ft / 3,75 m, 12,30 ft / 3,75 m - Quarter deck: 25,00%, 12,30 ft / 3,75 m, 12,30 ft / 3,75 m - Average freeboard: 14,15 ft / 4,31 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 96,8% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 122,2% Waterplane Area: 16 797 Square feet or 1 560 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 131% Structure weight / hull surface area: 92 lbs/sq ft or 448 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,30 - Longitudinal: 1,27 - Overall: 1,28 Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent Ваш вариант (расположение 6”орудий: по одному на баке и на юте, одно – на навесной палубе за кормовым мостиком, одно на надстройке перед грот-мачтой и два по бортам диагонально). Стоимость – более 6,1 млн. руб. Водоизм. (норм./полн.) – 6360/6870 Т; гл. размерен. (макс.) – 160,5х15,8х5,4 м; ЭУ - 2 ПТА сист. Парсонса общ. мощн. 37 тыс. л.с., 4 винта, 18 ПК сист. Ярроу; скор. хода (полн.) – 28,6 узл., дальн. плав. – 3250 миль со скор. 14 узл. при полн. запас топл.: уголь – 930 Т, нефть – 230 Т; броня: пояс - 38-76-38 мм, палуба 38-25 мм, рубка - 76 мм, щиты оруд. – 51/25 мм; вооружение: 6 – 152/50-мм (по 225 снар. на оруд.), 2 – 47/43-мм (по 200 снар. на оруд.), 4 торп. апп. 457-мм (подв. борт., всего 8 торпед), 120 мин загражд. обр. 1908 г.; экипаж – 416 чел. Кр 1910 г. Вар.С2, Россия Крейсер laid down 1910 Displacement: 5 502 t light; 5 714 t standard; 6 357 t normal; 6 871 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (526,60 ft / 519,85 ft) x 51,67 ft x (16,73 / 17,70 ft) (160,51 m / 158,45 m) x 15,75 m x (5,10 / 5,40 m) Armament: 3 - 6,00" / 152 mm 50,0 cal guns - 104,28lbs / 47,30kg shells, 225 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1910 Model 1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x Single mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount - superfiring 2 - 6,00" / 152 mm 50,0 cal guns - 104,28lbs / 47,30kg shells, 225 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1910 Model 1 x Single mount on sides, forward deck centre 1 x Single mount on sides, aft deck centre 1 - 6,00" / 152 mm 50,0 cal gun - 104,28lbs / 47,30kg shells, 225 per gun Breech loading gun in deck mount, 1910 Model 1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck centre 1 raised mount 2 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 43,0 cal guns - 3,31lbs / 1,50kg shells, 200 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1889 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides amidships 2 raised mounts Weight of broadside 632 lbs / 287 kg 8 - 18,0" / 457 mm, 16,83 ft / 5,13 m torpedoes - 0,811 t each, 6,491 t total In 4 sets of submerged side tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 3,00" / 76 mm 318,90 ft / 97,20 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Ends: 1,50" / 38 mm 200,79 ft / 61,20 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Main Belt covers 94% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 2,00" / 51 mm 1,00" / 25 mm - 2nd: 2,00" / 51 mm 1,00" / 25 mm - 3rd: 2,00" / 51 mm 1,00" / 25 mm - - Protected deck - single deck: 1,00" / 25 mm For and Aft decks Forecastle: 1,50" / 38 mm Quarter deck: 1,50" / 38 mm - Conning towers: Forward 3,00" / 76 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Direct drive, 4 shafts, 37 469 shp / 27 952 Kw = 28,60 kts Range 3 250nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 1 156 tons (80% coal) Complement: 355 - 462 Cost: £0,463 million / $1,851 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 121 tons, 1,9% - Guns: 115 tons, 1,8% - Torpedoes: 6 tons, 0,1% Armour: 890 tons, 14,0% - Belts: 417 tons, 6,6% - Armament: 51 tons, 0,8% - Armour Deck: 399 tons, 6,3% - Conning Tower: 22 tons, 0,3% Machinery: 1 670 tons, 26,3% Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 701 tons, 42,5% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 855 tons, 13,5% Miscellaneous weights: 120 tons, 1,9% - On freeboard deck: 120 tons Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 7 946 lbs / 3 604 Kg = 73,6 x 6,0 " / 152 mm shells or 1,4 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,36 Metacentric height 3,2 ft / 1,0 m Roll period: 12,2 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 52 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,09 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,03 Hull form characteristics: Hull has raised forecastle, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,495 / 0,506 Length to Beam Ratio: 10,06 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 26,02 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 25,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Forward deck: 25,00%, 12,30 ft / 3,75 m, 12,30 ft / 3,75 m - Aft deck: 25,00%, 12,30 ft / 3,75 m, 12,30 ft / 3,75 m - Quarter deck: 25,00%, 12,30 ft / 3,75 m, 12,30 ft / 3,75 m - Average freeboard: 14,15 ft / 4,31 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 94,3% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 122,3% Waterplane Area: 18 526 Square feet or 1 721 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 135% Structure weight / hull surface area: 101 lbs/sq ft or 494 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,40 - Longitudinal: 1,24 - Overall: 1,28 Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent cobra пишет: А то я хочу на справочнике точку пока поставить............. Окончательные варианты проекта Кр 1907 г. (без торпедных аппаратов и с котлами Ярроу смешанного отопления): 1. С турбинами системы Кертисса. Стоимость – более 4,8 млн. руб. Водоизм. (норм./полн.) – 5190/5810 Т; гл. размерен. (макс.) – 147,7х14,6х5,3 м; ЭУ - 2 ПТА общ. мощн. 27 тыс. л.с., 2 винта, 16 ПК; скор. хода (полн.) – 27 узл., дальн. плав. – 4500 миль со скор. 14 узл. при полн. запас топл.: уголь – 1110 Т, нефть – 280 Т; броня: пояс - 25-64-25 мм, палуба 38-25 мм, рубка - 51 мм, щиты оруд. – 25 мм; вооружение: 6 – 152/45-мм (по 225 снар. на оруд.), 2 – 47/43-мм (по 200 снар. на оруд.), 120 мин загражд. обр. 1908 г.; экипаж – 397 чел. Кр 1907 г. (Кертисс-Ярроу), Россия Крейсер laid down 1907 (Engine 1909) Displacement: 4 232 t light; 4 418 t standard; 5 192 t normal; 5 811 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (484,44 ft / 477,69 ft) x 47,80 ft x (16,08 / 17,45 ft) (147,66 m / 145,60 m) x 14,57 m x (4,90 / 5,32 m) Armament: 6 - 6,00" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,92lbs / 49,41kg shells, 225 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1890 Model 2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread 4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread 2 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 43,0 cal guns - 3,31lbs / 1,50kg shells, 200 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1889 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck centre 2 raised mounts Weight of broadside 660 lbs / 299 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 2,50" / 64 mm 281,82 ft / 85,90 m 7,87 ft / 2,40 m Ends: 1,00" / 25 mm 195,87 ft / 59,70 m 7,87 ft / 2,40 m Main Belt covers 91% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 1,00" / 25 mm - - - Protected deck - single deck: 1,00" / 25 mm For and Aft decks Forecastle: 1,50" / 38 mm Quarter deck: 1,50" / 38 mm - Conning towers: Forward 2,00" / 51 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Direct drive, 2 shafts, 27 214 shp / 20 301 Kw = 27,00 kts Range 4 250nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 1 393 tons (80% coal) Complement: 305 - 397 Cost: £0,366 million / $1,464 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 99 tons, 1,9% Armour: 658 tons, 12,7% - Belts: 289 tons, 5,6% - Armament: 17 tons, 0,3% - Armour Deck: 340 tons, 6,5% - Conning Tower: 13 tons, 0,2% Machinery: 1 334 tons, 25,7% Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 021 tons, 38,9% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 960 tons, 18,5% Miscellaneous weights: 120 tons, 2,3% - On freeboard deck: 120 tons Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 6 871 lbs / 3 117 Kg = 63,6 x 6,0 " / 152 mm shells or 1,3 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,37 Metacentric height 2,9 ft / 0,9 m Roll period: 11,8 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 58 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,10 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,15 Hull form characteristics: Hull has raised forecastle, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,495 / 0,510 Length to Beam Ratio: 9,99 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 24,96 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 25,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Forward deck: 25,00%, 12,14 ft / 3,70 m, 12,14 ft / 3,70 m - Aft deck: 25,00%, 12,14 ft / 3,70 m, 12,14 ft / 3,70 m - Quarter deck: 25,00%, 12,14 ft / 3,70 m, 12,14 ft / 3,70 m - Average freeboard: 14,03 ft / 4,28 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 90,7% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 119,4% Waterplane Area: 15 748 Square feet or 1 463 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 139% Structure weight / hull surface area: 87 lbs/sq ft or 426 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,28 - Longitudinal: 1,31 - Overall: 1,28 Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate Запас топлива в 1393 Т соответствует реальной дальности хода на 14 узлах в 4500 миль 2. С турбинами системы Парсонса. Стоимость – около 5 млн. руб. Водоизм. (норм./полн.) – 5190/5760 Т; гл. размерен. (макс.) – 147,7х14,6х5,3 м; ЭУ - 2 ПТА общ. мощн. 26 тыс. л.с., 4 винта, 14 ПК; скор. хода (полн.) – 26,6 узл., дальн. плав. – 4300 миль со скор. 14 узл. при полн. запас топл.: уголь – 1030 Т, нефть – 260 Т; броня: пояс - 25-64-25 мм, палуба 38-25 мм, рубка - 51 мм, щиты оруд. – 25 мм; вооружение: 6 – 152/45-мм (по 225 снар. на оруд.), 2 – 47/43-мм (по 200 снар. на оруд.), 120 мин загражд. обр. 1908 г.; экипаж – 397 чел. Кр 1907 г. (Парсонс-Ярроу), Россия Крейсер laid down 1907 (Engine 1908) Displacement: 4 290 t light; 4 477 t standard; 5 192 t normal; 5 764 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (484,44 ft / 477,69 ft) x 47,80 ft x (16,08 / 17,35 ft) (147,66 m / 145,60 m) x 14,57 m x (4,90 / 5,29 m) Armament: 6 - 6,00" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,92lbs / 49,41kg shells, 225 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1890 Model 2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread 4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread 2 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 43,0 cal guns - 3,31lbs / 1,50kg shells, 200 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1889 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck centre 2 raised mounts Weight of broadside 660 lbs / 299 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 2,50" / 64 mm 294,29 ft / 89,70 m 7,87 ft / 2,40 m Ends: 1,00" / 25 mm 183,40 ft / 55,90 m 7,87 ft / 2,40 m Main Belt covers 95% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 1,00" / 25 mm - - - Protected deck - single deck: 1,00" / 25 mm For and Aft decks Forecastle: 1,50" / 38 mm Quarter deck: 1,50" / 38 mm - Conning towers: Forward 2,00" / 51 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Direct drive, 4 shafts, 25 711 shp / 19 180 Kw = 26,60 kts Range 3 710nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 1 287 tons (80% coal) Complement: 305 - 397 Cost: £0,377 million / $1,510 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 99 tons, 1,9% Armour: 663 tons, 12,8% - Belts: 294 tons, 5,7% - Armament: 17 tons, 0,3% - Armour Deck: 340 tons, 6,5% - Conning Tower: 13 tons, 0,2% Machinery: 1 400 tons, 27,0% Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 008 tons, 38,7% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 901 tons, 17,4% Miscellaneous weights: 120 tons, 2,3% - On freeboard deck: 120 tons Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 6 580 lbs / 2 985 Kg = 60,9 x 6,0 " / 152 mm shells or 1,2 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,37 Metacentric height 2,9 ft / 0,9 m Roll period: 11,8 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 60 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,10 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,20 Hull form characteristics: Hull has raised forecastle, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,495 / 0,509 Length to Beam Ratio: 9,99 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 24,96 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 25,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Forward deck: 25,00%, 12,14 ft / 3,70 m, 12,14 ft / 3,70 m - Aft deck: 25,00%, 12,14 ft / 3,70 m, 12,14 ft / 3,70 m - Quarter deck: 25,00%, 12,14 ft / 3,70 m, 12,14 ft / 3,70 m - Average freeboard: 14,03 ft / 4,28 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 94,8% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 119,4% Waterplane Area: 15 748 Square feet or 1 463 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 134% Structure weight / hull surface area: 87 lbs/sq ft or 423 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,27 - Longitudinal: 1,31 - Overall: 1,28 Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate Запас топлива в 1287 Т соответствует реальной дальности хода на 14 узлах в 4300 миль cobra пишет: Нет это вы колеблетесь с генеральной линией партии, сначала мгш захотел ( и пох ему было на скорость ГН"низкую", в кавычках ибо это совершенно не так, не правда ли? Так русский МГШ – это только частный случай. В то время нигде в мире орудия СК в башнях не применялись – как на Кр вообще, так и на КрЛ в частности, причём основной причиной этого, помимо незначительной скорости горизонтальной наводки, худшей меткости стрельбы из башен с несколькими орудиями и пр., являлась гораздо более низкая (по сравнению с казематными и палубными) скорострельность башенных пушек. Так что спорить здесь действительно не о чем.
полная версия страницы